CPZ in Dulwich Village ward to go live on January 6

[malumbu]

Do people have a problem with RPZs.  I doubt if this affects any of us.  

Glad Townley was mentioned.  Several entitled selfish motorists on double yellows today, with homemade signs placed on the windscreens 

[Rockets]

39 minutes ago, Glemham said:

Have no recollection of any mention of RPZs by the Dulwich Village Councillors, Margy Newens and Richard Leeming. This is very definitely their patch.

Again if you are a stranger to the area how are you supposed to know that you can’t park there at certain times. How would you know where to go for a permit?

Are RPZs the future? I do like the irony that it’s to minimalise the need for too many signs and street furniture, when not a million yards away at the junction there’s a plethora of signs and cycle racks …………

If this is the new way forward there can be no doubt what the council's intentions are and how they are putting shameless revenue-generation ahead of fairness. Shame on them if this is now their approach - and they have the gall to refer to themselves as socialists.

[first mate]

RPZ has not been mentioned as an option, especially in this area. And yes, it is definitely Leemings' and Newens' turf. Doesn't one of them live in DV?

[march46]

It’s all as per the consultation - both Gilkes and part of Calton are shown as a PPA or ‘Permit Parking Area’.

[Rockets]

But it was a CPZ consultation was it not? 

March - out of interest do you think the current signage clearly alerts drivers that parking in Calton is subject to restrictions?

Edited January 16, 2025 by Rockets

[Glemham]

14 hours ago, malumbu said:

Do people have a problem with RPZs.  I doubt if this affects any of us.  

Glad Townley was mentioned.  Several entitled selfish motorists on double yellows today, with homemade signs placed on the windscreens 

As the car is parked outside the NHS clinic at the end of Townley Road, could the car belong to a member of staff or a patient? Perhaps the clinic has negotiated with Southwark for permits for staff who need a car to do their work. 

[malumbu]

There were at least three on doubles with the home made sign.  Double yellows mean no parking 

[Rockets]

Yes, double-yellows is a clear notice that parking is not allowed.

But you have to admit Calton, where parking is also now restricted, there aren't clear signs. Why is that do you think?

[sandyman]

On 16/01/2025 at 12:50, Glemham said:

Until next Monday the tickets are warnings, fining in earnest starts on Monday. If you don’t know the area, have been driving sensibly and not looking up at signs that require you to get out of  your vehicle to read them and park in Calton during the proscribed hours, would you have a valid reason to appeal?
Please could someone/anyone from the Council explain the rationale behind this system?

I hope these are only warnings as this car now has five. 

[first mate]

What a waste of paper and plastic too.

[Rockets]

Calton is clearly (or not due to it being so poorly signposted) a revenue generating trap laid by the council.

Edited January 19, 2025 by Rockets

[malumbu]

How can anyone in London not know with your campaign?  Surely you must have gone viral.

[first mate]

No, the truly shocking campaign/harnessing of social media, has been through an LCC campaigner of the year who also happens to be Chair of the Dulwich Society Transport Sub Committee. That committee seems to have been hijacked by LCC supporters with local Labour Councillors in attendance, to get things, like Dulwich Square 'done'.

I would not be surprised if at least one of that sub committee has been posting here on these threads.

[malumbu]

So they have action as well as words.  Well done to them.  Rather than just bleating on, on this forum.  

They are open about their affiliations.  Members can boot them out if they don't like it 

[first mate]

Perhaps you count yourself among them;

But the Dulwich Society Transport sub-committee Chair was allegedly not that open or transparent, as when they were named in this forum I believe admin was asked to remove their name.

No problem with that, of course, but it rather shows that some are not as open and transparent as you would have us think.

Edited January 20, 2025 by first mate

[Rockets]

44 minutes ago, malumbu said:

Members can boot them out if they don't like it 

Maybe take this chat to the thread in relation to this but it looks like members of Dulwich Society tried exactly that...that's when it all went a bit pear-shaped...

[Earl Aelfheah]

55 minutes ago, Rockets said:

Maybe take this chat to the thread in relation to this

Wow. 🤣

Edited January 20, 2025 by Earl Aelfheah

[malumbu]

Think you must need a popular front for Dulwich.  Or a Dulwich popular front.  I get confused between the two 

[Rockets]

Did Calton finally go live today and has anyone seen any additional signage going up?

Does anyone on the pro-side think that the signage on Calton is adequate and won't be entrapping unsuspecting motorists?

[ab29]

On 16/01/2025 at 18:03, malumbu said:

Do people have a problem with RPZs.  I doubt if this affects any of us.  

Glad Townley was mentioned.  Several entitled selfish motorists on double yellows today, with homemade signs placed on the windscreens 

Do you have a car ?

[Earl Aelfheah]

14 hours ago, Rockets said:

Did Calton finally go live today and has anyone seen any additional signage going up?

I would be interested in this too. Haven’t personally been down there since it went live. Has the signage changed?

Edited January 21, 2025 by Earl Aelfheah

[Rockets]

Signage had not changed as of this morning.

[sandyman]

The car with five tickets doesn't have any more yet so maybe the wardens haven't been down this week or maybe they are showing a rare glimmer of sympathy for someone who presumably isn't aware of the new restrictions.

Can someone explain in simple terms what the point of making Calton permit parking was? It's not really a street where commuters parked to go to the station, it's not a street where parents dropped off their children for school - and if they did I expect they'd still do that quickly and hope not to get caught. I've walked down there today and there are hardly any cars parked on the street - most of the residents have drives so the council surely won't make much from the sale of permits. The only people it seems to be hitting are people that work on those houses or nearby - in the village or the schools. Who will mostly just park on the next streets along which don't require permits.

[Moovart]

Yesterday I counted 11 cars with tickets on, three of which had multiple tickets, which common sense would indicate is because the signage is inadequate as has been previously mentioned.  There is one sign at the Townley Rd end and one at the junction of Woodwarde road and Calton avenue but if you miss one of those signs as you turn into Calton Ave then there is no other indication that this is a street with restricted parking.

My understanding is that inadequate signage is a reason for appeal of a parking ticket so I hope everyone appeals their recent tickets and wins their appeal even if they have to take it to tribunal.  

So come on Southwark...sort the signage out otherwise we might think that this is about revenue from PCNs rather than parking control.

I presume the controls are to stop staff of Alleyns and JAGS parking as well as parents parking to drop off school children and people working in Dulwich Village 🤷

 

[Rockets]

The controls are also to push parking onto other local roads to help the council push for CPZs as they take Dulwich one street at a time!!! 😉