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Peter Mandelson has all the skills and abilities to make an exceedingly good diplomat.  But  the incoming Republicans are unforgiving and intolerant of anyone who has been derogatory about Trump.
Considering the deprecatory remarks made previously by both Mandelson and Lammy , one wonders how things might turn out for UK-USA relations going forward.

Many people have been dismissive of Trump in the recent past, including his VP.
Besides, Mandelson and Trump have much in common. They are both shallow, vulgar and vain. They both fetishise wealth and power, irrespective of who holds it or how it was accumulated. They were both close friends and associates of the late Jeffrey Epstein and have moved in the same circles, as Ghislaine Maxwell’s address book allegedly confirms.
Recognising another who is utterly transactional and lacking in a moral compass, there’s every chance of “Petie” fitting right in Mar-a-Largo.

Being nice to Trump, constantly and obsequiously, in no way keeps you onside with him

honesty far better

and there isnt going to be any meaningful trade deal with USA anyway because it conflicts with other interests.  
 

bugs the shite out of me listening to people complain about uk being rude about Trump when the things the uk continues to say about Europe and its leaders is unhinged 

Edited by Sephiroth
5 hours ago, malumbu said:

They are not being rude they are giving a factual account of his character and behaviour.  Unstable is a good example.  Dishonest  criminal.  Mysogenist.  All accurate.

Try "misogynist",  and you would be 100% right

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2 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

The fact that some people in England seem to be narrowly focussed on the eejit that is mandelson whilst ignoring the real villains in the whole Epstein thing is… revealing 

and those villains are lauded and unaffected 

Revealing of what, exactly?
I resurrected this thread, after a year, to highlight the foolishness of the OP’s op. And how posturing would be sagacity is quickly undermined by events, dear boy, events.
The thread is about Mandelson. I knew he was a wrong ‘un all along, we all did; the Epstein shit just proves it.

In reality, Kinnock, Blair, Brown, Starmer et all knew as well but accepted it, because they found him useful. As did a large proportion of the 2024 intake of Labour MPs who were personally vetted and approved by Mandelson.

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    • Revealing of what, exactly? I resurrected this thread, after a year, to highlight the foolishness of the OP’s op. And how posturing would be sagacity is quickly undermined by events, dear boy, events. The thread is about Mandelson. I knew he was a wrong ‘un all along, we all did; the Epstein shit just proves it. In reality, Kinnock, Blair, Brown, Starmer et all knew as well but accepted it, because they found him useful. As did a large proportion of the 2024 intake of Labour MPs who were personally vetted and approved by Mandelson.
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