Roadworks outside Grove Tavern

[DulwichParker]

As I'm sure you've seen, there are some massive roadworks going on outside the Grove Tavern site. Does anyone have any details on what they are? Are they related to any potential refurb of the Grove Tavern site?

[Guest]

Looked as though it was pavement widening works by Southwark Council?????

[DulwichParker]

What they really need to do is fill in the potholes and try to level the pavement on the other side of the road outside the shops

Edited April 1, 2025 by DulwichParker

[ed_pete]

There is already a thread about these roadworks:

 

[Pugwash]

Pedestrian crossing installations. Residents have been asking for this for last 20 years or so. previously refused by TFL.

[EDResident2018]

Pedestrian crossing being put in, along with various utilities (broadband etc) upgrades. All being rolled into the same works and will take quite a few months to complete 

[malumbu]

Good to see that there is some joined up-ness to the works, not quite sure if this was pointed out earlier. 

 

[Penguin68]

16 hours ago, EDResident2018 said:

Pedestrian crossing being put in, along with various utilities (broadband etc) upgrades

I think it was rather that the works were destroying the existing under pavement installations which were then needing reinstatement. As this work doesn't seem to be described in the letter I received showing scheduling it wouldn't surprise me if the work was also a surprise to the utilities with under pavement infrastructure who are now rushing to recover the situation. 

Broadband fibre is easily run (or blown) from 'manhole' flexibility points and doesn't need additional works to allow that. I'm guessing existing copper is being recovered to create more space. So I don't think this is clever planning rather more than TFL works screwing up other utilities who are having to install e.g. new cable chambers because their existing ones have been compromised by the works. 

Edited April 3, 2025 by Penguin68

[malumbu]

Perhaps we could all try to post something positive?  It's lovely and sunny outside, birds are making nests, spawn had turned into tadpoles, spring flowers are out, this part of the forum has been peaceful for the last few days.

[Penguin68]

Is this your department which is being criticised then? 

[alice]

M start a thread for positive vibes only see how that goes

[Sue]

1 hour ago, alice said:

M start a thread for positive vibes only see how that goes

I think you'll find that there have been many threads on here with positive vibes!

But it seems that it's the negative ones which stay in people's memories.

Also, it's a bit like online reviews such as TrustPilot.

 People tend to post if they have had a bad experience with a company or product. A good experience, not so much.

Same with starting a thread on here, I guess.

[malumbu]

3 hours ago, Sue said:

I think you'll find that there have been many threads on here with positive vibes!

But it seems that it's the negative ones which stay in people's memories.

Also, it's a bit like online reviews such as TrustPilot.

 People tend to post if they have had a bad experience with a company or product. A good experience, not so much.

Same with starting a thread on here, I guess.

The posts on this part of the forum are virtually all complaining Sue.  Some people wake up in the morning angry.  Fortunately some of us don't.

Looking at the world there is of course plenty to be angry about.  We can discuss this on the Lounge.

 

5 hours ago, alice said:

M start a thread for positive vibes only see how that goes

I try from time to time but they tend to be hijacked or gather zero interest.   There are a small number of you who I expect have never posted anything positive.  Shame.

Edited April 3, 2025 by malumbu

[alice]

That’s how forums work. And trying to put a  Pollyanna spin on stuff is just a different way of not hearing. 

[Sue]

On 03/04/2025 at 17:18, malumbu said:

The posts on this part of the forum are virtually all complaining Sue.  Some people wake up in the morning angry.  Fortunately some of us don't.

Looking at the world there is of course plenty to be angry about.  We can discuss this on the Lounge.

 

I try from time to time but they tend to be hijacked or gather zero interest.   There are a small number of you who I expect have never posted anything positive.  Shame.

I was talking about the forum as a whole.

Sorry, I didn't realise that you meant just this part of it!

[ab29]

On 01/04/2025 at 12:21, DulwichParker said:

As I'm sure you've seen, there are some massive roadworks going on outside the Grove Tavern site. Does anyone have any details on what they are? Are they related to any potential refurb of the Grove Tavern site?

I live in the area, contacted southwark council and tfl, have not received a response yet why the works are to take 13 weeks. 

How about working long hours / weekends / overnight? 

To minimise the chaos and disruption.

Edited April 4, 2025 by ab29