Tesla at Belair House

[Insuflo]

Dear God. I thought this sort of thing only happened in Streatham. 

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

1 hour ago, Cyclemonkey said:

This is hilarious!  "They're sex people Lynne!"

How do you feel about the pedestrianisation of Dulwich Square?

15 hours ago, tiddles said:

Tbh most Tesla owners are people who are concerned about the environment 

The massive Benefit In Kind tax dodge for top rate taxpayers helps a lot too. 

[MrCheeky]

come touch my tesIa  n see what happens 

[Cyclemonkey]

1 hour ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

How do you feel about the pedestrianisation of Dulwich Square?

The massive Benefit In Kind tax dodge for top rate taxpayers helps a lot too. 

I am not even sure I know what Dulwich Square is to be honest.  Is an opinion mandatory?

[Sue]

That's really annoying!

They have deleted their posts.

One person quoted one of them, but what was in the other one?

Could somebody tell me what they said?

Whatever it was, it seems they thought better of making it public! 

2 hours ago, Insuflo said:

Dear God. I thought this sort of thing only happened in Streatham. 

That was only when Cynthia was running her brothel there 🤣

2 hours ago, Cyclemonkey said:

Not really my area of expertise TBH but I assume there would be some sort of vetting at the door.  I assume these sorts things have to be licensed by the council?

But what would they be vetting them for?

My mind is boggling 🤣

My mind is boggling again re celebrating Mother's Day  😀

Edited April 5, 2025 by Sue
Amendment

[David Peckham]

All your questions answered, Sue!

Heavencircle.com

I've haven't been quite so confused since I searched for a recipe from 'Ainsley's (Harriott) Big Cook Out' and Google returned something very different.

I must have misspelled something.

I think I'll give the 'Jazz and Roast' a miss, just to be on the safe side.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, David Peckham said:

Well, this is a bit more interesting than 'Saturday Kitchen'.

Did anyone else not know what a 'Shibari Artist' was?

No, but I do now, knot tying, one to try out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sue]

36 minutes ago, David Peckham said:

All your questions answered, Sue!

Heavencircle.com

I've haven't been quite so confused since I searched for a recipe from 'Ainsley's (Harriott) Big Cook Out' and Google returned something very different.

I must have misspelled something.

I think I'll give the 'Jazz and Roast' a miss, just to be on the safe side.

Could you make that a link?

I don't want to Google it or type the www in case I then get inundated with - well, not sure exactly what, but I suspect I wouldn't want to be inundated with it 🤣

[Guest]

1 hour ago, MrCheeky said:

come touch my tesIa  n see what happens 

Won't be the only thing getting touched in more ways than one, how comes this has been kept so secretive, and right on the door step almost of the village. The mind boggles at what's been going on under our noses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well this has certainly livened up the chat on a mid Saturday afternoon. 

I've even got the perfect track for this...............................

 

3 hours ago, Insuflo said:

Dear God. I thought this sort of thing only happened in Streatham. 

Certainly not a "Dear God" situation. 

[first mate]

8 hours ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

Southwark owns it. It's leased to some guy from Orpington or something. They have tried to run a bar, restaurant, Uber Eats dark kitchen, nightclub for one off events...but never quite committing to one of them or being very successful.

Some of the nightclub nights are a shambles: booze bottles all over the pavements, screaming and yelling, dickheads racing cars. I didn't know they were doing swingers nights - obviously I don't move in the right circles to get an invitation... 😞

It's odd that no-one has been able to make a real go of it in recent years. It should be a great space - a country manor feel in the centre of London overlooking a park? But the forecourt is a bit shabby.

BTW much as I dislike Musk - I'm not sure I can blame the Belair House lot (which is a tiny business) much for taking money to let them do a launch event. And calling Belair House "sacred" seems a bit of a stretch 🤷

Never knew any of this. Thought it was privately owned and just a not very successful restaurant and wedding venue. Ate there once, many years ago, and food was pretty average. Such a shame such a beautiful venue in a stunning location has not done better. I guess it is a bit out of the way?

 

[IlonaM]

Just spotted this in the Indy100: 'Elon Musk haters given chance to ‘smash the utter f***’ out of a Tesla in ‘safe and legal’ London stunt'

https://www.indy100.com/politics/elon-musk-tesla-stunt-london

 

[geh]

"Jazz and Roast"

 

nice!

[David Peckham]

Well, quite.

Just, for God's sake, don't mention tromboning/tromboner to the staff or band if you pop in for their Sunday lunch 'Jazz & Roast' experience. And probably best not to take the family with you first time. Just in case.

Jazzer, you may want to think about changing your username in the light of all this. The English language can be a nightmare sometimes.

Sue, I tried to post it as link, but it wouldn't allow me to. You're on your own, but the 'About Us/Our Story' sections are genuinely uplifting and I've not been bombarded with anything.

I wouldn't recommend searching for 'tromboning' though.

[Spartacus]

Well 

Blow me, I read the above and thought come again 

I wonder if it's run by the fresh Prince Albert of Belair ? 

[Katherty]

So Southwark Council own this building? 

 

The Belair House website says: 

The first floor caters for private parties, small weddings and more intimate meetings. 

Indeed. 

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

https://www.dulwichsociety.com/local-history/who-lived-in-a-house-like-this-belair

 

More detail from the Dulwich Society, which objected to construction of Belair House on the grounds it was overly dense and out of keeping with the local area.

[Guest]

14 hours ago, David Peckham said:

Well, quite.

Just, for God's sake, don't mention tromboning/tromboner to the staff or band if you pop in for their Sunday lunch 'Jazz & Roast' experience. And probably best not to take the family with you first time. Just in case.

Jazzer, you may want to think about changing your username in the light of all this. The English language can be a nightmare sometimes.

Sue, I tried to post it as link, but it wouldn't allow me to. You're on your own, but the 'About Us/Our Story' sections are genuinely uplifting and I've not been bombarded with anything.

I wouldn't recommend searching for 'tromboning' though.

Just googled the term "tromboning", my oh my, then did "roast"  and all this going on at Belair House, what people are willing to do, it brings tears to the eyes.  

[Guest]

It is privately owned.  Southwark Council sold it years ago and it was then called Beauberry House then renamed Belair House.  Southwark Council own the park around it, Belair Park.  When Southwark owned the house it was just a dilapidated crumbling shell.

[Zak]

Alternatively, the actual freehold of Belair Mansion is owned by the Dulwich Estate

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Zak said:

Alternatively, the actual freehold of Belair Mansion is owned by the Dulwich Estate

Interesting to learn that "Belair Mansion is owned by the Dulwich Estate", wonder if they are aware of what has been going on at these "parties"?

[Cyclemonkey]

You googled tromboning?  Dude.  RIP your linked ads and google recommendations. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, jazzer said:

Interesting to learn that "Belair Mansion is owned by the Dulwich Estate", wonder if they are aware of what has been going on at these "parties"?

It's complicated, the Dulwich Estate own the freehold of the land and Southwark Council are responsible for Belair Park, presumably on a lease.  In the 80s the house was sold, presumably on a long lease, to quite a famous chef whose name I forget!

[Guest]

Well yes, never heard those terms or used, so it was a case of googling to find out what they mean. Others may know or be acquainted with those activities on here???

[Penguin68]

2 hours ago, Kathleen Olander said:

to quite a famous chef whose name I forget!

I had thought it was to the actor Gary Cady, but apologies if that is wrong.

The 'problem' with it as a restaurant venue is that it is built, as it were, to offer a 'country house' experience, but it is in an area where there is no passing trade, but where, quite close, there is a plethora of good restaurants. It therefore does not have a compelling niche or offer. When it's the only posh game in town, driving out to a country house venue has obvious attractions, but not when you can readily choose many other offers relatively close. It would only work if it could get a ** or *** Michelin rep, but it's never been able to build that. Hence looking for wedding or more dubious gigs. It has offered good 'nights' (such as night-club style magic performances) but it can't keep up sufficient regularity to build a loyal customer base. Ideally it needs, perhaps, an excellent existing up-market restaurant brand to move there, but again its positioning away from good public transport (West Dulwich doesn't have enough trains) doesn't make a compelling offer  in London.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Penguin68 said:

I had thought it was to the actor Gary Cady, but apologies if that is wrong.

The 'problem' with it as a restaurant venue is that it is built, as it were, to offer a 'country house' experience, but it is in an area where there is no passing trade, but where, quite close, there is a plethora of good restaurants. It therefore does not have a compelling niche or offer. When it's the only posh game in town, driving out to a country house venue has obvious attractions, but not when you can readily choose many other offers relatively close. It would only work if it could get a ** or *** Michelin rep, but it's never been able to build that. Hence looking for wedding or more dubious gigs. It has offered good 'nights' (such as night-club style magic performances) but it can't keep up sufficient regularity to build a loyal customer base. Ideally it needs, perhaps, an excellent existing up-market restaurant brand to move there, but again its positioning away from good public transport (West Dulwich doesn't have enough trains) doesn't make a compelling offer  in London.

Yes, you are quite right about Gary Cady he took it on in the 90s.  I was thinking of the chef, but cannot remember their name.