US UK Trade deal

[Spartacus]

The deal with America is currently being announced

Is it a good one for us or have we been sold a pigs ear as a silk purse ? 

Personally  as it involves Beef bring imported to the UK, I don't believe its in the public interest.

Interested to see others reaction 

[jazzer]

Trump changes his mind as often as the clock ticks. The man is an egotistical buffoon, similar in ways to Starmer, another egotistical, do as I say, not as I do, wedged to the hilt hypocrite who still thinks he's Head of the DPP not the first minister.  

Certainly don't want beef from the US, it'll hurt our own beef production farmers, revered around the world as the very best with the quality of British and especially prime Angus Scotch Beef. 

Just don't export to the US and only import from there what is essentially necessary. 

Edited May 8 by jazzer

[Sue]

1 hour ago, jazzer said:

Just don't export to the US and only import from there what is essentially necessary. 

I don't think trade deals work like that?

[CPR Dave]

What's in this deal for East Dulwich then?

[malumbu]

1 hour ago, jazzer said:

Trump changes his mind as often as the clock ticks. The man is an egotistical buffoon, similar in ways to Starmer, another egotistical, do as I say, not as I do, wedged to the hilt hypocrite who still thinks he's Head of the DPP not the first minister.  

Certainly don't want beef from the US, it'll hurt our own beef production farmers, revered around the world as the very best with the quality of British and especially prime Angus Scotch Beef. 

Just don't export to the US and only import from there what is essentially necessary. 

Surely consumers gave the good sense to make good decisions, eg on animal welfare, sustainability and the like.  Oh, wait a second......

Now I get that you aren't a fan of Starmer but I am gobsmacked you compare him to Trump. Now Faradge and Trump.  That's a different subject.  Misspelling on purpose to reclaim his hard 'g'.

[Sephiroth]

Fair to say, I’m slightly less gobsmacked 

[Sue]

13 minutes ago, malumbu said:

 Now Faradge and Trump.  That's a different subject.  Misspelling on purpose to reclaim his hard 'g'.

No, you've got adj

For a hard g you need Faragg.

I think.

🤣

Edited May 8 by Sue

[jazzer]

44 minutes ago, malumbu said:

Surely consumers gave the good sense to make good decisions, eg on animal welfare, sustainability and the like.  Oh, wait a second......

Now I get that you aren't a fan of Starmer but I am gobsmacked you compare him to Trump. Now Faradge and Trump.  That's a different subject.  Misspelling on purpose to reclaim his hard 'g'.

Yep, you're correct, don't care for Trump or Starmer or Farage, all nasty, self serving, over entitled, wedged to the hilt wannabe politicians, who are a disaster for their respective countries, populations and the world as a whole. You can add Putin to that list as well. 

[Sephiroth]

But who do you like to admire jazzer? This country or any other country? 
 

anyone?

[jazzer]

It's not who I admire, it's who's best to turn this country around and solve the multitude of problems the population experiences on a daily basis. People's pockets are only so deep and can only afford so much before they eventually have to rely on the State and that costs even more. The Cost of living spiralling, although inflation is apparently falling, right, yeah, NOT. Taxed to the hilt, wages/pensions not rising sufficiently to keep up, resulting in unemployment increasing, businesses not able to afford to keep or take on staff. It's a rollercoaster that is hard if not impossible to stop.    

[Sephiroth]

So you prefer to just complain and moan ad nauseum without ever being able to point to a better path?

as a country we are not taxed to the hilt. Not historically in this country or by comparing to other countries. 
 

where are you getting inflation is falling from - it’s been a bit up and down for a while but not really trending downward.  But even if it was, real world prices lag behind - but it’s not universal - so things like rent could continue to spiral 

 

 

[alice]

1 hour ago, Sue said:

No, you've got adj

For a hard g you need Faragg.

I think.

🤣

I would pronounce it to rhyme with garage. 

[Sephiroth]

5 minutes ago, alice said:

I would pronounce it to rhyme with garage. 

You’re missing out the silent O

it’s farrago 

[malumbu]

14 minutes ago, alice said:

I would pronounce it to rhyme with garage. 

In deed, but I have been infected and now starting to say garage with a soft g like the Americans

[Sue]

50 minutes ago, alice said:

I would pronounce it to rhyme with garage. 

But only the first g in garage is a "hard" g?

The second one is a "soft" g whether you pronounce it "j" or (not sure how to write it, but even softer, like a cross between "sh" and "j"?)

So surely Malumbu's hard g in Farage would be like the first g in garage, not the second one?

I can't believe I am wasting my time writing this irrelevant drivel 🤣

[jazzer]

1 hour ago, Sephiroth said:

So you prefer to just complain and moan ad nauseum without ever being able to point to a better path?

as a country we are not taxed to the hilt. Not historically in this country or by comparing to other countries. 
 

where are you getting inflation is falling from - it’s been a bit up and down for a while but not really trending downward.  But even if it was, real world prices lag behind - but it’s not universal - so things like rent could continue to spiral 

 

 

Nope, not "complaining or moaning", stating an opinion.

Tax - yes we are taxed to the hilt, the threshold is £12570, Govts not increasing this means more and more people get dragged into paying tax. HMRC are a joke, even if you're below that figure they take tax that has to be claimed back as its wrongly deducted. 

Inflation is supposedly dropping, the reality in the shops is the total opposite, week on week almost, prices increase, utilities increase etc.

I don't want to live under a left wing govt, if you do, suggest you try living in Russia.

[Sephiroth]

If you want to talk about tax you have to contextualise it - this is not a highly taxed country

but it is a country that needs money - so what do you propose?

 

if you dk t want to live under a left wing govt that’s your choice but how do we get from left wing govt to Russia?

 

you make no sense 

[jazzer]

I'm done with you.

Edited May 8 by jazzer

[Spartacus]

Well 

This went off track quickly 

[Cancerian]

3 hours ago, Sue said:

But only the first g in garage is a "hard" g?

The second one is a "soft" g whether you pronounce it "j" or (not sure how to write it, but even softer, like a cross between "sh" and "j"?)

So surely Malumbu's hard g in Farage would be like the first g in garage, not the second one?

I can't believe I am wasting my time writing this irrelevant drivel 🤣

Yes, it’s absolute drivel ! 😀

[Sue]

8 hours ago, Cancerian said:

Yes, it’s absolute drivel ! 😀

I'm glad we agree on at least one thing, Cancerian 😀!

How do you think Farage should be pronounced, then?

Do you agree with Malumbu? 

What do you think is a "hard g" ?

Good to be discussing the important issues of our time 😀

[Earl Aelfheah]

19 hours ago, CPR Dave said:

What's in this deal for East Dulwich then?

Trump wants to make us the 51st state.

18 hours ago, jazzer said:

It's not who I admire, it's who's best to turn this country around and solve the multitude of problems the population experiences on a daily basis. People's pockets are only so deep and can only afford so much before they eventually have to rely on the State and that costs even more. The Cost of living spiralling, although inflation is apparently falling, right, yeah, NOT. Taxed to the hilt, wages/pensions not rising sufficiently to keep up, resulting in unemployment increasing, businesses not able to afford to keep or take on staff. It's a rollercoaster that is hard if not impossible to stop.    

Happy Friday ☀️

17 hours ago, alice said:

I would pronounce it to rhyme with garage. 

I pronounce it to rhyme with 'hunt'

[Sue]

On 09/05/2025 at 13:35, Earl Aelfheah said:

I pronounce it to rhyme with 'hunt'

🤣🤣🤣

[malumbu]

On 09/05/2025 at 08:44, Sue said:

I'm glad we agree on at least one thing, Cancerian 😀!

How do you think Farage should be pronounced, then?

Do you agree with Malumbu? 

What do you think is a "hard g" ?

Good to be discussing the important issues of our time 😀

I know someone who went to Dulwich College with him.  It was a hard G.  I'd love to know why he changed pronunciation to the continental way.  Monsieur Neejal Farrrajeux