Spartacus Posted Saturday at 12:51 Share Posted Saturday at 12:51 The website has been updated so looks like any challenges are over now https://www.southwark.gov.uk/about-council/how-council-works/cabinet/leader-council-and-cabinet-members Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Saturday at 15:03 Share Posted Saturday at 15:03 On 03/07/2025 at 12:12, Rockets said: No, he was utterly un-electable. Any sensible, non-Momentum, Labour member knew this. Corbyn likes to blame the press but that is the far-left modus operandi - find someone else to blame when the problem lies at your doorstep. I know someone who was on his team and they convinced themselves that they had won on the basis of social media. He was a disaster for the party and only Covid and the incompetence of the Tories allowed Labour to recover. Corbyn was on Newsnight last night clearly putting himself back on the circuit in the hope of a Starmer downfall. This is why Labour HQ does not want McAsh leading the council - they are trying to purge the party of the far-left due to the damage they have done to it and I believe any swing to a more far-left leadership in Labour HQ would be an unmitigated disaster and just be rolling out the red-carpet for Farage. But the far-left won't care they see another opportunity to take over after they fumbled the ball massively in 2019. https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/jul/12/is-the-british-left-making-a-comeback-uk-politics?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted Saturday at 15:25 Share Posted Saturday at 15:25 This new movement seems great. great ideas. But they’re just an opposition party they’re like a subsection of the Labour Party - so perfectly suited to Corbyn - his inspirational rhetoric can only be uttered in opposition. Power would not suit him - that would require hard decisions that’s not his style, strength or skill 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted Saturday at 16:36 Share Posted Saturday at 16:36 1 hour ago, Sue said: https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/jul/12/is-the-british-left-making-a-comeback-uk-politics?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Reading this sort of stuff - it's tiring. It's a weird focus on marginal English politics instead of the mainstream and instead of UK politics. How do you use 4 ex-Labour MPs getting elected an example of a supposed trend but ignore the election of 411 Labour MPs in the same election? How do you waffle on for several hundred words about the prospects of new left parties without mentioning what's been happening in this area for the last 20 years in Scotland and Wales? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted Saturday at 19:08 Author Share Posted Saturday at 19:08 (edited) This new party might do nothing more than serve Reform victory in the next election - there is no mood for a far-left party (as 2019 aptly demonstrated) and taking votes from Labour could be a nightmare for the whole country. But Corbyn has only cared about himself and his ideology - once a backbencher, always a backbencher. Edited Saturday at 19:20 by Rockets 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted Saturday at 19:47 Share Posted Saturday at 19:47 I agree. Internal rifts and factions will be music to Farage's ears. McAsh wrote something not long ago about how the centre and left need each other. This government is far from ideal but we need some stability not a far-left coup. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted Saturday at 20:23 Share Posted Saturday at 20:23 (edited) A far left coup? This bunch can't even decide if the People's Front of Judea is actually going to be a political party, let alone who's going to lead it. I don’t think you need to worry about Corbyn and Co seizing Woolwich barracks to recreate Kronstadt any time soon. Edited Saturday at 20:23 by Dogkennelhillbilly 3 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted Saturday at 20:58 Share Posted Saturday at 20:58 I knew nothing about Kronstadt. Thanks for taking me down a Google wormhole, Dkh. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted Sunday at 09:28 Share Posted Sunday at 09:28 14 hours ago, Rockets said: This new party might do nothing more than serve Reform victory in the next election - there is no mood for a far-left party (as 2019 aptly demonstrated) and taking votes from Labour could be a nightmare for the whole country. But Corbyn has only cared about himself and his ideology - once a backbencher, always a backbencher. If Starmer takes the party any further right then can he complain if the left leave? If Reform win it will be entirely Starmer and the right wing of the labour party's fault, there will be no one else to blame. After 14 years of the tories making this country worse, there doesn't seem much appetite for a continuation of centre right politics. 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted Sunday at 11:45 Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:45 Unfortunately, the world is shifting more to the right and so even now centre-left politics of the Blair era would likely struggle in this climate. It's terrible but world politics are starting to mould our country politics. A shift further left won't work. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted Sunday at 12:53 Share Posted Sunday at 12:53 It's okay Kids, Mr Trump is coming to save us, and he will rename Great Britain to "Trumpton" 😅 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted Wednesday at 12:55 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:55 Blimus Chaos at London Labour council as leader ousted by own party days after his election | The Standard https://share.google/bpDStbVz1TkaUapF2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Wednesday at 13:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:02 6 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Blimus Chaos at London Labour council as leader ousted by own party days after his election | The Standard https://share.google/bpDStbVz1TkaUapF2 😮😮😮 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted Wednesday at 17:39 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:39 There wasn't any chaos at the council: bins were collected, social workers supported people, elder care was paid for and all the rest. There was a few days of furious bickering among local politicians on one side of the chamber. Nothing new there... 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted Wednesday at 18:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:09 30 minutes ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said: There wasn't any chaos at the council: bins were collected, social workers supported people, elder care was paid for and all the rest. There was a few days of furious bickering among local politicians on one side of the chamber. Nothing new there... Exactly Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/362544-cllr-williams-to-stand-down/page/5/#findComment-1713910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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