Cllr Williams to stand down

[Sephiroth]

You literally just edited your earlier reply to remove the point you made about it being “politicians”.  Then you call me pathetic. 
 

I’m  not trying to say you approve any of the ugly right wing nonsense. 

But I AM Saying your earlier post suggesting  violent rhetoric being “left wing” was one-sided and incorrect 

Edited yesterday at 19:50 by Sephiroth

[HeadNun]

I edited my post because I couldn't be sure we were talking about politicians and I couldn't be bothered to read it all back. But it was off the back of a thread discussing labour councillors, so it went without saying really and I should have left it. 

What I said was 'There's something very aggressive about language like that - it's not big and it's not clever. Some of the angry energy that comes from the far left is pretty self-defeating.' (In relation to a labour councillor rather immaturely, in my view, wearing a jumper that read 'fuck the Tories'). 

But I don't recall saying that "violent rhetoric" is exclusively the domain of the left wing. So I do think you're taking a bit of a bit of leap here. 

[CPR Dave]

On 19/07/2025 at 18:43, Rockets said:

Politicians particularly so....remember it's always party before people!

I doubt McAsh will be in cabinet much longer...he might find even more attempts to kneecap his political career. I wonder if he might have to move to another area and restart - he obviously has political ambition but it seems Southwark is not going to be where it blossoms anymore - unless he can manage some sort of coup.

 

He seemed to me to be fully immersed in the Jeremy Corbyn ethos of the Labour Party. I dint think that (and self describing as a Marxist) would have helped much when Labour was changed under Starmer. There was a purge of people as far left as him that he was lucky to survive once in my opinion.

 

Stuff like this heavy endorsement of Momentum and Corbyn. It doesn't wash with a party that is in actual government.

 

https://labourlist.org/2020/04/forward-momentum-weve-launched-to-change-it-from-the-bottom-up/

Edited 7 hours ago by CPR Dave

[Sue]

3 hours ago, CPR Dave said:

He seemed to me to be fully immersed in the Jeremy Corbyn ethos of the Labour Party. I dint think that (and self describing as a Marxist) would have helped much when Labour was changed under Starmer. There was a purge of people as far left as him that he was lucky to survive once in my opinion.

 

Stuff like this heavy endorsement of Momentum and Corbyn. It doesn't wash with a party that is in actual government.

 

https://labourlist.org/2020/04/forward-momentum-weve-launched-to-change-it-from-the-bottom-up/

The party that is in actual government won't be in it long if it carries on like this.

I don't know how they have the cheek to still call themselves Labour.

[Rockets]

Because Corbyn's hard left version of Labour was totally unelectable and failed spectacularly when faced with an electorate beyond Islington. I know it pains left Labour but traditionally centre-left to centre-right is the sweet spot to win elections.

Glastonbury serenading Corbyn ahead of the 2019 election was not the beginning of the revolution but the sign that it was all over.

 

Edited 4 minutes ago by Rockets