Interesting stats on cycle red light jumpers

[HeadNun]

7 minutes ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

You quite often see people being stopped and issued FPN on some of the major commuter routes into London. Ex-Dulwichers point re. the ‘Idaho stop’ is spot on. We need more nuanced rules in relation to those on bicycles, better enforcement of road laws in general, and education putting the safety of others first.

Ah I had no idea - who stops them and how, is it police in cars? I haven't commuted into London for years, and never saw it when I did, so there must have been an increase, which is good. I'll look up the Idaho stop, I must have missed that post. 

 

11 minutes ago, SE22_2020er said:

@HeadNun - the Met Police used to periodically fine people cycling through the Greenwich foot tunnel and hand out FPNs with alacrity.

Similarly, there used to be monthly Police checks by the Old Vic and one would see quite a few FPNs being issued.

 

Unfortunately, what with cost pressures and the all encompassing crime wave that's spreading through Dulwich village since the LTN went in, I guess there just aren't the resources any more.

Our posts crossed. It's a shame this has decreased - as you say, the more people they fine, the more they can fund the resources to stop people. 

[exdulwicher]

8 minutes ago, HeadNun said:

Ah I had no idea - who stops them and how, is it police in cars? 

I've seen police on motorbikes stop cyclists a few times. Often a lot of moto police around the Buckingham Palace area, they're not averse to pulling over traffic (cycle and vehicle). 

[Earl Aelfheah]

An example:

https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/news/city-of-london/news/2024/august/cycle-team-producing-great-results-a-year-on-from-launch/#:~:text=The seized e-bikes are,with 'hotspot' policing initiatives.

They’re usually targeting illegal e-bikes as well as red light hoppers. I’ve seen crews on Blackfriars road before.

[HeadNun]

I love this! Stupid question, but do they have sirens or some sort of warning sound? How do they actually catch up with people travelling at speed? 

[Dulwichway]

Bitter/jealous/angry cyclists are nightmare on our roads today that are meant for motor vehicles, they really need to be policed properly and reduced asap!!

[malumbu]

I was in Guildford today.  You don't get bikes running red lights in the centre.  That is because it is so bike unfriendly you hardly get any bikes.  Just loads of cars.

Not the solution I want in the capital and shows how far we have come in London.

No doubt there are cycle routes in central Guildford but sobering to see how car centric  it is.  As no doubt many smaller towns 

[Rockets]

I think the ITV article sums it up perfectly when they say so far in 2025 284 cyclists have been fined by the City of London Police for jumping red lights yet they counted 200 doing exactly that in one hour at one set of lights.

I very much suspect councils and police will start to enforce this more rigorously as clearly the message is not getting through - there is a gold mine of PCNs waiting to be issued! 😉

[malumbu]

I'd still rather be in a city which encourages cycling.  @Rockets do you still cycle?

[Rockets]

I do, very much so - it is why it vexes me so much that so few people seem to obey the rules and as someone who does stop being admonished for doing so shows how much of a problem this is. But this is not just a London problem - has anyone been to Amsterdam recently - good grief? I know people hold that up as the cycling nirvana but if the city centre is a peek into the cycling dream everyone better wake-up soon because it is a nightmare!

Edited Saturday at 16:41 by Rockets