jazzer Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) "The cost of applying for a free travel card for older Londoners is to almost double. Transport for London has announce that it will increase the cost of obtaining a 60+ Oyster card from £20 to £35. In addition, the annual eligibility check – an administrative process required to retain the perk – will increase from £10 to £18. The 60+ Oyster is regarded as one of the best benefits available to Londoners as it provides free weekday travel on all TfL services after 9am and on national rail services within Greater London after 9.30am, and at any time at the weekend. The changes will come into effect next Tuesday, July 22 – with the charges reviewed annually going forward. TfL said the increases were the first in a decade and were needed due to wider financial constraints within the capital’s transport agency. There will also be a £1 increase in the cost of applying for Oyster Zip cards for children and young people. The increases in Zip cards will be as follows: • 5-10 Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £11 (currently £10). • 11-15 Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £16 (currently £15). • 16+ Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). • 18+ Student Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20) • Apprentice Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). • 18-25 Care Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). There will be no changes to the fees associated with the Freedom Pass, which is managed by London Councils. About 1.3 million older Londoners have a 60+ Oyster or a Freedom Pass. Hundreds of thousands of children and teenagers use a Zip card, which generally provides half-price Tube fares and free bus journeys. However TfL forgoes an estimated £80m a year in fares income due to use of the 60+ Oyster. The announcement comes after 78 TfL executives were revealed to have earned more than the Prime Minister last year. Michael Roberts, chief executive of London TravelWatch, which represents passengers, said: "Higher TfL photocard fees, especially for the over-60s, will be unwelcome news to Londoners who continue to feel the pinch of the ongoing cost of living crisis and some of the most expensive public transport fares in Europe. "Annual index-linked increases might in future avoid big hikes in fees, but it's disappointing that more isn't being done to soften the blow this year for 60+ card holders on lower incomes. "Londoners will be wondering what further unpleasant revenue-raising surprises TfL might have in store over the coming months." John McGeachy, of Age UK London, said: "Although we recognise that the costs of delivering services do rise over time, it is important that TfL are aware that with 24 per cent of Londoners in the 60-64 age group living in poverty, there are many people for whom these amounts will not feel insignificant. “We would like to see TfL take steps to ensure that more eligible Londoners are aware of the 60+ Oyster photo card and for the application and eligibility check process to be made as accessible as possible. “We know that the 60+ Oyster card is a lifeline for many Londoners and believe it should be protected in the short, medium and long-term." People who lose their 60+ Oyster will have to pay £18 for a replacement, up from £10. The cost of replacing a Zip card will increase from £10 to £11. In addition, TfL is also planning to increase the fee for new Oyster cards and Visitor Oyster cards from £7 to £10 from September 7. In 2020, London mayor Sir Sadiq Khan banned the use of the 60+ Oyster and Freedom Pass before 9am, initially due to the pandemic. The 60+ Oyster was introduced by Boris Johnson as mayor in 2012 when Freedom Pass eligibility was changed in line with changes to the State pension age for women. The aim was to provide for those who had chosen, or been forced, to retire early. It meant Londoners received travel benefits not available to the rest of the country. More than half of Londoners aged 60 to 64 are still in work. About one in five use their 60+ Oyster for work-related travel. TfL said the large increase in the cost of the 60+ Oyster was because, of its various concessions, it has “the biggest gap between the estimated revenue that we would receive were these journeys paid for, and the income we receive through fees”. Alex Williams, chief customer and strategy officer at TfL, said: “We are fully committed to keeping travel in London affordable and accessible to everyone. “Our fees for photocards haven’t increased in 10 years, and these changes will mean that we can continue to provide these concessions while ensuring that the fees better reflect our costs for operating the schemes.” Edited July 18 by jazzer 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) Who cut the central government funding for TfL Jazzer? 2015 if you need a reminder. How many other major European cities aren't subsidised centrally? It's practically zero as they all see public transport as a public good. i assume that you support Khan's pressure to reverse those subsidy cuts to long term, sustainable income? Edited July 18 by snowy 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 (edited) Why are you picking an argument? All I have done is copied the info from the Evening Standard. Take as it is, if you have an issue take it up with TfL or Mayor Khan, but not me, put another way, don't shoot the messenger. Who I do or do not support ain't up for discussion. Edited July 18 by jazzer 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, snowy said: Who cut the central government funding for TfL Jazzer? 2015 if you need a reminder To be fair @snowy Sadiq did this time round because between the Tory government and Labour government he suddenly decided he needed to ask for 50% less money....https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dp7w6p775o Edited July 18 by Rockets Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 "annual eligibility check" Are they worried that some cardholders may get younger each year and so are no longer eligible? 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 CPR Dave, I think its to make sure they haven't passed over the rainbow bridge and someone else is using their twirlypass 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfFocus Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Or no longer live in London. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 It's a good deal even with additional charges. Johnson screwed up funding as I have discussed in the past, with evidence. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 keep to topic. if you want to discuss politics start a new thread. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Johnson screwed up funding. It is a factor that has put pressures on TfL finances following COVID. It is therefore very relevant. The Evening standard is a right wing rag as many of the newspapers are. It is virtually impossible to keep politics out of a thread like this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 (edited) The article by the Evening Standard makes no political points, yet you attempt to make it political. The reason for posting the article was to inform people so they know what's going to happen, what is wrong with you? And Khan messed TfL funding throughout Covid, remember when travel was free. Edited July 20 by jazzer 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 TFL has been, and continues to be, used as a political football by both parties for a long time - to pretend otherwise is politically naive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 (edited) My original post, copying what The Evening Standard was non political. I was not making nor intending to make any political statement out of the article, merely reporting what was printed. If people want a political rant, fine, but GO START A NEW THREAD and don't derail this one. In future I won't bother posting useful information, you can all find out yourselves from whatever other source reports or publishes it. Edited July 20 by jazzer Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 If you posted purely for information then you could have explained what is going on.eg TfL has put the prices up for freedom cards, over 50 cards and their renewal. You could ten give the link. By all means express an opinion. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 I won't bother posting useful information, you can all find out yourselves from whatever other source reports or publishes it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted Tuesday at 19:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:47 On 20/07/2025 at 23:39, jazzer said: I won't bother posting useful information, you can all find out yourselves from whatever other source reports or publishes it. As hard as it is with some individuals, try not to feel invalidated by them. You don't need to be told how to communicate. They're the ones with that particular failure (If anyone is offended or about to bristle in response then you already know it's you I mean). Jazzer, your original snippet is helpful for those who may not be in the know and thank you for posting. However, as is the nature of the beast, by adding it here you are inviting discussion which will inevitably go in directions you might not have intended. Don't give up 🙃 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted Tuesday at 19:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:53 Rather than sniping do others have any views on this subject? I'm the only one who has actually expressed an opinion. This is a forum. Perhaps the over 60 Oyster card should go. Few other places in the UK give 60 - 67 year olds this benefit. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted Tuesday at 19:58 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 19:58 (edited) 6 minutes ago, malumbu said: Rather than sniping do others have any views on this subject? I'm the only one who has actually expressed an opinion. This is a forum. Perhaps the over 60 Oyster card should go. Few other places in the UK give 60 - 67 year olds this benefit. Simply, NO. The previous Government increased the age as to when State Pension is paid. The consequence is that the the Freedom Pass is delayed by two years. Therefore every reason to enable those aged 60+ (as I believe that was the age for women to originally retire), hence the 60+ Oyster card compensates for that. I make no political inference in what I have said, thus do not derail this thread. Edited Tuesday at 20:00 by jazzer Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwich dweller Posted Thursday at 03:25 Share Posted Thursday at 03:25 (edited) On 18/07/2025 at 18:12, jazzer said: "The cost of applying for a free travel card for older Londoners is to almost double. Transport for London has announce that it will increase the cost of obtaining a 60+ Oyster card from £20 to £35. In addition, the annual eligibility check – an administrative process required to retain the perk – will increase from £10 to £18. The 60+ Oyster is regarded as one of the best benefits available to Londoners as it provides free weekday travel on all TfL services after 9am and on national rail services within Greater London after 9.30am, and at any time at the weekend. The changes will come into effect next Tuesday, July 22 – with the charges reviewed annually going forward. TfL said the increases were the first in a decade and were needed due to wider financial constraints within the capital’s transport agency. There will also be a £1 increase in the cost of applying for Oyster Zip cards for children and young people. The increases in Zip cards will be as follows: • 5-10 Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £11 (currently £10). • 11-15 Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £16 (currently £15). • 16+ Zip Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). • 18+ Student Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20) • Apprentice Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). • 18-25 Care Oyster photocard, charged at £21 (currently £20). There will be no changes to the fees associated with the Freedom Pass, which is managed by London Councils. About 1.3 million older Londoners have a 60+ Oyster or a Freedom Pass. Hundreds of thousands of children and teenagers use a Zip card, which generally provides half-price Tube fares and free bus journeys. However TfL forgoes an estimated £80m a year in fares income due to use of the 60+ Oyster. The announcement comes after 78 TfL executives were revealed to have earned more than the Prime Minister last year. Michael Roberts, chief executive of London TravelWatch, which represents passengers, said: "Higher TfL photocard fees, especially for the over-60s, will be unwelcome news to Londoners who continue to feel the pinch of the ongoing cost of living crisis and some of the most expensive public transport fares in Europe. "Annual index-linked increases might in future avoid big hikes in fees, but it's disappointing that more isn't being done to soften the blow this year for 60+ card holders on lower incomes. "Londoners will be wondering what further unpleasant revenue-raising surprises TfL might have in store over the coming months." John McGeachy, of Age UK London, said: "Although we recognise that the costs of delivering services do rise over time, it is important that TfL are aware that with 24 per cent of Londoners in the 60-64 age group living in poverty, there are many people for whom these amounts will not feel insignificant. “We would like to see TfL take steps to ensure that more eligible Londoners are aware of the 60+ Oyster photo card and for the application and eligibility check process to be made as accessible as possible. “We know that the 60+ Oyster card is a lifeline for many Londoners and believe it should be protected in the short, medium and long-term." People who lose their 60+ Oyster will have to pay £18 for a replacement, up from £10. The cost of replacing a Zip card will increase from £10 to £11. In addition, TfL is also planning to increase the fee for new Oyster cards and Visitor Oyster cards from £7 to £10 from September 7. In 2020, London mayor Sir Sadiq Khan banned the use of the 60+ Oyster and Freedom Pass before 9am, initially due to the pandemic. The 60+ Oyster was introduced by Boris Johnson as mayor in 2012 when Freedom Pass eligibility was changed in line with changes to the State pension age for women. The aim was to provide for those who had chosen, or been forced, to retire early. It meant Londoners received travel benefits not available to the rest of the country. More than half of Londoners aged 60 to 64 are still in work. About one in five use their 60+ Oyster for work-related travel. TfL said the large increase in the cost of the 60+ Oyster was because, of its various concessions, it has “the biggest gap between the estimated revenue that we would receive were these journeys paid for, and the income we receive through fees”. Alex Williams, chief customer and strategy officer at TfL, said: “We are fully committed to keeping travel in London affordable and accessible to everyone. “Our fees for photocards haven’t increased in 10 years, and these changes will mean that we can continue to provide these concessions while ensuring that the fees better reflect our costs for operating the schemes.” Thanks for taking the time to post this 👍👍 On 22/07/2025 at 20:53, malumbu said: Rather than sniping do others have any views on this subject? I'm the only one who has actually expressed an opinion. This is a forum. Perhaps the over 60 Oyster card should go. Few other places in the UK give 60 - 67 year olds this benefit. You've got some front to comment on sniping. Most of your posts are nasty snipes. I've just read one on the thread about roadworks. In two fotted as usual. Edited Thursday at 03:29 by Dulwich dweller 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/364554-evening-standard-reports-tfl-announces-big-hike-in-cost-of-applying-for-a-60-oyster-card/#findComment-1714761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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