Bloody Sydenham Hill

[malumbu]

I loved the Woodhouse.  It's been awful for years.  I cycle up Sydenham Hill to go to Sydenham or Crystal Palace. 

[Sue]

2 hours ago, jazzer said:

I'm lucky if I can afford fish & chips take away, let alone the prices in the Wood House.  

We weren't eating there, just having a pint after a walk in the woods.

Can't remember the price of a pint or what we've had, but I've never liked Young's beer.

Apart from the Winter Warmer (unless I've misremembered and that isn't Young's).

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

I'm surprised there's such hate for the Wood House. I don't particularly like the interior decor but it's good a big garden with a bunch of covered and uncovered seating.

I'm not surprised the culture warriors have showed up with their usual "facts".

[malumbu]

It was such a lovely pub.  I drank and occasionally ate there for many years.  It had a locals feeling about it.  It had the most grumpy couple who managed it, and an outrageous gothed up person behind the bar.  Then it went through several makeovers and it was never the same again.

Bums on seats.  The plastic grass, little cabins, relatively expensive alcohol, ubiquitous menu, all brings the punters in.  Pub business has changed.   The brewery who ran their pubs so well has long since gone.  They don't need my business and my sense of nostalgia to survive.

[Sephiroth]

"I'm not surprised the culture warriors have showed up with their usual "facts"." what does this even mean?

[Sue]

2 hours ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

I'm surprised there's such hate for the Wood House. I don't particularly like the interior decor but it's good a big garden with a bunch of covered and uncovered seating.

I'm not surprised the culture warriors have showed up with their usual "facts".

What is a "culture warrior"?

What "facts" are you referring to, and why the inverted commas?

Yes, the "garden" is big (I can use inverted commas too!) Yes, it has seats. 

Are you a fan of AstroTurf and artificial plants? How would you define a "garden"?