Bus stop closures.

[Pugwash]

Getting fed up with the continual bus stop closures due to road works. In LL coming from Forest Hill you can only get on the bus at the stop between Friern and Upland Road as next nearest stop is Heber Road. Going up to FH   197, 185, 176 are not able to stop at the library. At least with the 40 you can stay on until it terminates in Etherow Street.

It may not seem far for those who do not have mobility problems, but walking down from Upland Road to Barry Road with shopping  and using a stick, takes me ages as the pavements are uneven and very narrow between the tree roots. Whereas getting off at Crystal Palace Road stop is slightly better.

The bus stop outside the Maths place is closed until 13th October.

[march46]

It’s related to major Thames Water works. Agree it’s massively impacting the bus services, and journey times also. Hopefully it will be over soon, but it seems it’s often a game of whac-a-mole with Thames Water locally. 

[Spartacus]

Got to admit, I agree with @Pugwashugwash , it is a real challenge for those with mobility issues and the uneven pavements really are difficult (think wheel chair users or those who need mobility aids) 

[jazzer]

2 hours ago, march46 said:

It’s related to major Thames Water works. Agree it’s massively impacting the bus services, and journey times also. Hopefully it will be over soon, but it seems it’s often a game of whac-a-mole with Thames Water locally. 

Plus southern gas networks with the work being redone at Peckham Rye/|East Dulwich Road, resulting in both stops either side being "closed". 

There was a time when this NEVER happened, you know the good old days, and if it did they put out a temporary bus stop. 

So much for TfL's "every journey matters" slogan, I don't think so. 

[march46]

I’m not sure the fault is with TfL, more so the utility companies that have poorly invested in their infrastructure for decades.

Re temporary bus stops, I can’t see where they would put them around the Lordship Lane / Barry Rd junction without removing a significant amount of parking - tricky to do as a temporary measure. 

[jazzer]

FFS, never said it was TfL's fault did I ? Another munchkin who likes to twist what someone says, 

Suggest they do something because the next bus stop open is half way to the next parade of shops, not helpful at all. Something would be better than nothing, but then no level of inconvenience matters to TfL  

[malumbu]

"So much for TfL's "every journey matters" slogan, I don't think so."

Saying that is how most people will interpret what you say. 

And just to endorse this "but then no level of inconvenience matters to TfL  "

What have TfL (and the Romans) ever done for us?

What is your alternative model for running our public transport?  Other metropolitan regions such as TfGM have delivered many benefits since working across the area such as contactless payments.  Unless your memory is short you may recall the revolution that Oyster and then contactless payments that TfL introduced.

[Spartacus]

27 minutes ago, malumbu said:

"So much for TfL's "every journey matters" slogan, I don't think so."

Saying that is how most people will interpret what you say. 

And just to endorse this "but then no level of inconvenience matters to TfL  "

What have TfL (and the Romans) ever done for us?

What is your alternative model for running our public transport?  Other metropolitan regions such as TfGM have delivered many benefits since working across the area such as contactless payments.  Unless your memory is short you may recall the revolution that Oyster and then contactless payments that TfL introduced.

I think you are raising different points 

Only a few years ago , if a bus stop was closed, 90% of the time a temporary stop was installed a few meters down the road from where the obstruction / issue was.  Haven't seen that happen recently which in this situation would be a possibly (a stop installed just past Plough homecraft for example and outside the Plough/ Sainsbutys in the opposite direction) 

Contactless/oyster, whilst a revolution also has problems

 The number of tourist i see in central London asking if they can pay cash is amazing, some people actually don't like their information bring grabbed by TfL everytime they tap in and some people want to pay cash as they have limited funds so want to spend only what's in their pocket. 

Revolution yes, but not always the wonder solution some proclaim.

[malumbu]

Conversely I am stunned if I have to use cash on travel abroad.  Most now take contactless, although the complexity of travelling by train in Germany is even worse than the UK often having three operators on a point to point journey.  

[Pugwash]

The closure of the bus stops are having a knock on effect on local businesses. The café at Christ Church have seen a massive drop in their income over the past couple of weeks as many of their regular customers come by bus. I am involved in running a club for over 55s, many of whom have physical disabilities which affect their walking. Not having the bus stop opposite the library, they struggle to walk from Crystal Palace Road and Upland Roads.  Was also advised that not all the No 40 bus drivers allow you to board etc at terminus in Etherow Street.

[Sue]

Now the "Goose Green" bus stop near Cafe Nero is closed due to roadworks.

A very kind 37 driver let me off the bus at the corner of East Dulwich Grove this evening, probably breaking some rule (I hadn't asked him to open the doors, so I was pleasantly surprised when he did!)

Edited October 9 by Sue
Mixed up ED Road and ED Grove

[march46]

Did you notice if it was also Thames Water Sue?

[Sue]

18 hours ago, march46 said:

Did you notice if it was also Thames Water Sue?

Sorry no, didn't notice, I was just relieved not to have to walk back from the next bus stop!

There was an announcement at the previous stop that the next bus stop was closed, but I  ignored that, as quite often those announcements are wrong, and I hadn't seen that bus stop closed earlier.

Silly me.

Edited October 9 by Sue

[jazzer]

SGN

[Dulwich dweller]

19 hours ago, march46 said:

Did you notice if it was also Thames Water Sue?

I think it's the gas board which would make sense as they've been working around Goose green and Lordship Lane for a while now.