In support of Greenlamd

[Spartacus]

Is it now time to stop buying from or using American companies? 

BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1j8kw866p3t

Trump tariffs: US president announces plan to hit UK, Denmark and other European countries with tariffs over Greenland - BBC News

[vladi]

3 hours ago, Spartacus said:

Is it now time to stop buying from or using American companies? 

 

Sure, for as long as that idiot is in the White House.

For starters, let's stop buying anything from Amazon and use UK suppliers only.
Here's a few  other businesses/services  we could easily do without:-

Google ( use Qwant instead)
Paypal ( use Wise, Revolut or Skrill - all UK based)
eBay ( use Vinted)
Tesla (plenty of alternatives)
Apple ( Samsung with Android is better value)
Cadburys (USA owned since 2010)

here are a few other brands we could easily find alternatives
 

• Procter & Gamble (P&G): (Gillette, Pampers, Ariel, Pantene, Tide).
• PepsiCo: (Pepsi, Frito-Lay, Quaker Oats, Gatorade).
• Coca-Cola Company: (Coca-Cola, Dasani, Minute Maid).
• Kraft Heinz: (Heinz Ketchup, Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, Oscar Mayer).
• Campbell Soup Company: (Campbell's Soups, Pepperidge Farm).

[Jenijenjen]

Don't forget Netflix. A few weeks ago, the US issued a security strategy document warning of Europe's "civilisational erasure" due to immigration. Britain's culture however faces a greater threat from the more subtle influence of American entertainment promoting American values and the American way of life, a kind of "Netflixisation". There are many people who are happy to pay a Netflix subscription but refuse to pay the BBC license fee, so money goes into making more American entertainment while depriving the necessary investment into British programming.

I wonder at the timing of the issue of the US demand for Greenland becoming news again and can't help but think it is partly a Trump misdirection of Europe's attention from the dreadful events in Minesota and elsewhere in the US. Putin of course would love it if there was conflict between the US and Europe.

Edited 7 hours ago by Jenijenjen

[malumbu]

14 hours ago, vladi said:

Sure, for as long as that idiot is in the White House.

 

 

Not helpful and comes over as reactionary to use the term idiot.

He is a misogynist, possibly a racist, bully and a narcissist.  He is not an idiot, and knows what he is doing, worse still backed by Vance who well may be the brains of the operation.

To get anywhere you need to understand the man and why he has popular support.

Not that I can stand him and the world would be better off without him.

Starmer is doing an OK job of positioning himself.

[Spartacus]

7 minutes ago, malumbu said:

To get anywhere you need to understand the man and why he has popular support.

Support or fear of repercussions? 

[Jenijenjen]

17 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

Support or fear of repercussions? 

It was popular support, the electorate, that voted him into power. As far as I know, even in Trump's America, those who do not vote a certain way in presidential elections do not suffer repercussions.

Edited 4 hours ago by Jenijenjen

[malumbu]

You've also got to look at Biden, and the failure to nominate a strong alternative leader.

The move to the right in Britain has followed America's lead. Although as with the oft quoted butterfly flapping it's wings in the Amazon, Cameron (and other UK politicians) contributed to this malevolence.  

Whilst I would not use the term idiots, the knowledge (or rather lack of) of American's of history and world affairs is also relevant.  But you could say this about many here and across the world.

[vladi]

59 minutes ago, malumbu said:

Not helpful and comes over as reactionary to use the term idiot.

 

At least he is no doubt classified as a "useful idiot" by the Russians

[Sephiroth]

1 hour ago, malumbu said:

Not helpful and comes over as reactionary to use the term idiot.

He is a misogynist, possibly a racist, bully and a narcissist.  He is not an idiot, and knows what he is doing, worse still backed by Vance who well may be the brains of the operation.

To get anywhere you need to understand the man and why he has popular support.

Not that I can stand him and the world would be better off without him.

Starmer is doing an OK job of positioning himself.

 

I couldn’t disagree more - Trump is an idiot and he was voted for by a combination of idiots, racists and arrogance 

you can complain about weak opponents all you like - but when the alternative is a “strong” thug then the problem is those who favour the thug.  All we face was predicted  - and he doesn’t have widespread support across many parts of America. So that leaves parts of America responsible for this 

oh and in the list of things you call him you forgot the bit about being a p(that’s enough! Ed) 

Vance might be worse in many ways - but he doesn’t have the “glam” that Trump has. Once Trump is exposed properly or dies, nowhere near as many people will vote for his successor

see also his embarrassing fanboy: Farage 

[malumbu]

Depends on your definition of idiot.  I use the term to describe someone of low intellectual capacity.  But understand that this is now not used as seen to be offensive.

In that respect he makes decisions that are good for him, and his close followers.  Whether they are in the interests of the US that is open to debate (in the same way that history will debate all major leaders eg was Thatcher/Reagan good for the UK/US).

On line definitions:

An idiot is most commonly a term for a stupid, foolish, or senseless person, often used as an insult or to express frustration with someone's silly behavior, but historically it was a clinical term for profound intellectual disability, which is now considered offensive and obsolete. The word comes from Greek roots meaning a "private person" or layman, evolving to signify ignorance and lack of skill before becoming a derogatory label for low mental capacity. 

Modern Usage

• Self-deprecation:

  Used to describe one's own silly mistakes ("I felt like an idiot when I tripped"). 

• Insult/Exclamation:

  A very foolish person or someone acting stupidly ("Don't be such an idiot!"). 

Historical/Obsolete Meaning

• Medical Classification: Once a technical term for someone with extreme intellectual disability (IQ below 25), a usage now rejected as offensive. 

Origin

• Greek (idiōtēs😞 A private citizen, layman, or someone lacking professional knowledge.

• Latin (idiota😞 An uneducated or ignorant person. 

The notable recent  'idiot' was Johnson who of course played the fool (lovable rogue) but that served him well

So ultimately not a good word as it can be used in many ways.

Ignorant is another good example - can be stupid, unaware, or simply rude.