David Peckham Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I wouldn't like to speculate, Sue. Not my thing. Teddy Boy is your man on the ground for that sort of first-hand detail. It's six points for driving without insurance and six points for using a phone, so that's an automatic ban of at least six months. They're going to be practically uninsurable for a considerable period after that. So, nobody's hurt, a clearly crap driver is off the road for some time and the good burghers of SE22 get a lovely, shiny new post - probably paid for by the driver. Every cloud, and that. If only Franklins wasn't changing hands, Lordship Lane would be almost perfect. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Earl Aelfheah said: Strange they've still not moved it When a car is left damaged by the road-side it may be that the insurer is tasked with recovering the vehicle to assess it and (possibly) take it for repair. Only if it is in a dangerous position will the police recover it - which saves money for the tax-payer. You may also have some recovery options with e.g. the AA (other organisations are available). Were the car to have been stolen or abandoned then it will take some time to sort this out, and again unless the vehicle is in a dangerous position the police won't be rushing to deal with that. Not sure who the 'they' are in this case. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eats Dulwich Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, Penguin68 said: When a car is left damaged by the road-side it may be that the insurer is tasked with recovering the vehicle to assess it and (possibly) take it for repair. Only if it is in a dangerous position will the police recover it - which saves money for the tax-payer. You may also have some recovery options with e.g. the AA (other organisations are available). Were the car to have been stolen or abandoned then it will take some time to sort this out, and again unless the vehicle is in a dangerous position the police won't be rushing to deal with that. Not sure who the 'they' are in this case. Seems a pretty dangerous position to me - apart from getting in the way of pedestrians trying to cross the road large vehicles heading south have to edge into the oncoming traffic lane to get past. I've got a normal-sized car and had to squeeze through a gap the other day. Edited 6 hours ago by Eats Dulwich 1 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, David Peckham said: nobody's hurt, a clearly crap driver is off the road for some time and the good burghers of SE22 get a lovely, shiny new post - probably paid for by the driver. I will buy you a frothy coffee from anywhere you like on Lordship Lane if that happens. Most of these costs never get recovered from the drivers that caused them. 54 minutes ago, Eats Dulwich said: Seems a pretty dangerous position to me The photo shows a car that's been left on the zigzags protecting the crossing. Pedestrians crossing East to West and drivers heading South won't see each other until the pedestrians are in the road. That is a dangerous position to leave a car in. (I don't know if it's stil there, obviously). 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDulwich_4 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Never understood why there are not more speed cameras on Lordship Lane and the surrounding area - not sure what happened here exactly, but given the damage to the front of the vehicle as a result of the impact of the traffic light, it seems very unlikely that this person was driving slowly. 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Police are responsible for speed cameras, often these only go up after a serious incident or two. If speeding was decriminalised and went to local authorities to enforce then our roads would be safer as there would be far less speeding. https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/enforcement-20mph-zones-local-roads Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggsy Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago But there's an obvious policy tension here between the police model and the civil model. The police model theoretically acts as a deterrent but, as on Lordship Lane (and many other A-roads where most collisions happen) there is limited enforcement coverage. With the civil model there is the potential for wider enforcement coverage but the penalties are weaker (some may think of speeding as a 'cost of doing business') and funding it is expensive. There's a real risk of patchwork enforcement within a local authority and between local authorities. As I understand it, this is why the Assembly has been cautious in taking it further. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago It's actually a hazard now. It would've been ticketed and removed by now if it was a parked car Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago So has the driver just done a runner, or what? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago There was quite a lot of police activity round here a couple of days ago. I wonder of it was part of a chase and they nudged it into the traffic light ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/page/2/#findComment-1737451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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