Car crashed into lamp post opposite coop , I hope no one was hurt ?

[David Peckham]

I wouldn't like to speculate, Sue. Not my thing. Teddy Boy is your man on the ground for that sort of first-hand detail.

It's six points for driving without insurance and six points for using a phone, so that's an automatic ban of at least six months.

They're going to be practically uninsurable for a considerable period after that.

So, nobody's hurt, a clearly crap driver is off the road for some time and the good burghers of SE22 get a lovely, shiny new post - probably paid for by the driver.

Every cloud, and that.

If only Franklins wasn't changing hands, Lordship Lane would be almost perfect.

[Penguin68]

 

1 hour ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

Strange they've still not moved it

When a car is left damaged by the road-side it may be that the insurer is tasked with recovering the vehicle to assess it and (possibly) take it for repair. Only if it is in a dangerous position will the police recover it - which saves money for the tax-payer.  You may also have some recovery options with e.g. the AA (other organisations are available). Were the car to have been stolen or abandoned then it will take some time to sort this out, and again unless the vehicle is in a dangerous position the police won't be rushing to deal with that. Not sure who the 'they' are in this case.

[Eats Dulwich]

33 minutes ago, Penguin68 said:

 

When a car is left damaged by the road-side it may be that the insurer is tasked with recovering the vehicle to assess it and (possibly) take it for repair. Only if it is in a dangerous position will the police recover it - which saves money for the tax-payer.  You may also have some recovery options with e.g. the AA (other organisations are available). Were the car to have been stolen or abandoned then it will take some time to sort this out, and again unless the vehicle is in a dangerous position the police won't be rushing to deal with that. Not sure who the 'they' are in this case.

Seems a pretty dangerous position to me - apart from getting in the way of pedestrians trying to cross the road large vehicles heading south have to edge into the oncoming traffic lane to get past. I've got a normal-sized car and had to squeeze through a gap the other day.

 

Edited yesterday at 14:50 by Eats Dulwich

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

1 hour ago, David Peckham said:

nobody's hurt, a clearly crap driver is off the road for some time and the good burghers of SE22 get a lovely, shiny new post - probably paid for by the driver.

 

I will buy you a frothy coffee from anywhere you like on Lordship Lane if that happens. Most of these costs never get recovered from the drivers that caused them.

54 minutes ago, Eats Dulwich said:

Seems a pretty dangerous position to me

The photo shows a car that's been left on the zigzags protecting the crossing. Pedestrians crossing East to West and drivers heading South won't see each other until the pedestrians are in the road. That is a dangerous position to leave a car in. (I don't know if it's stil there, obviously).

[EDulwich_4]

Never understood why there are not more speed cameras on Lordship Lane and the surrounding area - not sure what happened here exactly, but given the damage to the front of the vehicle as a result of the impact of the traffic light, it seems very unlikely that this person was driving slowly.

[malumbu]

Police are responsible for speed cameras, often these only go up after a serious incident or two.

If speeding was decriminalised and went to local authorities to enforce then our roads would be safer as there would be far less speeding.  

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/enforcement-20mph-zones-local-roads

[Suggsy]

But there's an obvious policy tension here between the police model and the civil model. The police model theoretically acts as a deterrent but, as on Lordship Lane (and many other A-roads where most collisions happen) there is limited enforcement coverage. With the civil model there is the potential for wider enforcement coverage but the penalties are weaker (some may think of speeding as a 'cost of doing business') and funding it is expensive. There's a real risk of patchwork enforcement within a local authority and between local authorities. As I understand it, this is why the Assembly has been cautious in taking it further. 

[kford]

It's actually a hazard now. It would've been ticketed and removed by now if it was a parked car 

[Sue]

So has the driver just done a runner, or what?

[CPR Dave]

There was quite a lot of police activity round here a couple of days ago. I wonder of it was part of a chase and they nudged it into the traffic light ?

[Sue]

40 minutes ago, CPR Dave said:

There was quite a lot of police activity round here a couple of days ago. I wonder of it was part of a chase and they nudged it into the traffic light ?

Surely if they had done that they would have taken responsibility for removing the car?

[mitchiner]

8 hours ago, Sue said:

Was the driver still with it when the police arrived?

I think so from what I saw from the bus

[Spartacus]

Loving the arm chair speculation on here 

Blimey how long before this gets spun out to be a drug dealer welding a sawn off whilst driving away from a smash and grab at the coop cash machine flipped his car and landed on a bollard type post 

Where's the green cross code man when you need him ? 

[David Peckham]

8 hours ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

I will buy you a frothy coffee from anywhere you like on Lordship Lane if that happens. Most of these costs never get recovered from the drivers that caused them.

 

Frothy coffee? Not really my bag. A double espresso and a Marlboro Red? It's the breakfast of champions.

The only dark drink with a creamy head which should ever be drunk by a man of my age is Guinness.

I've also become lactose intolerant recently, meaning I get very impatient around milk.

You make a fair point, but those legal channels are available for them to recover their repair, and legal, costs and, as I said: "It's up to them if they [Southwark] want to do that, of course."

There's three or four grands worth of Cat N write-off, wrapped round a post there (more, if it's broken down for parts) causing problems. If they can't be arsed sorting that, I'm not holding my breath.

Even Southwark couldn't screw their numbers up enough to make shifting the post back through circa 15 degrees more than a couple of grand, so there's a drink in it for everyone. It's a bit 'leany' just now, yeah, but I haven't noticed anyone having to limbo under it to get to Superdrugs.

Or, they could make a feature of it. Pisa has made a fortune out of not sorting the underpinnings of their tower. Let's say it's an installation by someone called, I don't know, Bangsy, and it's a physical reminder that SE22 cannot deny its proximity to Peckham, Camberwell & Brixton.

It's about the only thing that would get me back into The Bishop since the many dark afternoons of the soul I spent with Clarence*, the world's most depressed Weimaraner.

*RIP big fella. You were always a great listener.

 

1 hour ago, Spartacus said:

Loving the arm chair speculation on here 

Blimey how long before this gets spun out to be a drug dealer welding a sawn off whilst driving away from a smash and grab at the coop cash machine flipped his car and landed on a bollard type post 

Where's the green cross code man when you need him ? 

Come on Spartacus, don't be shy. You know exactly where the Green Cross Code Man was in 1973: less than a hundred yards away, on North Cross Road.

https://youtu.be/C-XwVVMiCO4?si=rt8kQllev0t1Lgdi

For some years, I found it quite difficult to go into The Forrester's after many long afternoons of the soul with Dave Prowse* (The Green Cross Code Man).

*RIP big fella. You were always a great listener.
 

Edited 18 hours ago by David Peckham
Don't ask

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

1 hour ago, Spartacus said:

how long before this gets spun out to be a drug dealer welding a sawn off whilst driving away from a smash and grab at the coop cash machine flipped his car and landed on a bollard type post 

That's a disgusting slur against an innocent driver who was probably just on their way to drop off freshly-baked muffins at an orphanage when they had to swerve out of the way of a so-called "cyclist", and anyway traffic lights are just a Marxist conspiracy by Southwark Council to slow traffic down and force people out of cars, so we're all better off without it.

[Joe1978]

I think it's in a pretty dangerous position, so amazed the Police or parking authorities haven't removed it.

It's illegal to park on the zigzag markings by a crossing and for very good reasons, so actually being in the middle of the crossing is far worse...

[dimples]

I am the original person who posted this post !

I said a pedestrian crossing as in where people cross at the coop 

I should have said Lordship lane ( my mistake ) !