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> I mean I really don't like Wayne Rooney, and I

> think Danny Welbeck is shit (plus they're both Man

> U), but if they are playing then I wanr them to do

> well because it's not about them as individuals.

>

> Although I admit I want to see the Liverpool

> players do well. But as much as I live Suarez in a

> Liverpool shirt I'll certainly be hoping he has an

> unspectacular tournament (even more so if it means

> clubs don't try to buy gin afterwards).


Oh Otta, love the "plus they're both man u", I would have got slaughtered if I'd written that. Love it.

I didn't think you meant what it seemed you wrote which is why I simply asked why? I can't understand why anyone would boo their own team however crap they might be. What ratty was referring to is the inability of some England fans to be good losers and turn to violence when their team loses. I remember hearing a story from the Euros in 1988 in West Germany. Ireland beat England 1-0 which was a massive result for us. After the match a group of English 'thugs' went into a large bar which was full of Irish fans. They barged their way to the bar and made it obvious they were up for a fight. Not wanting to get involved in that sort of stuff, the Irish fans took their drinks and went out to the street to finish them. I thought it was the perfect response to the idiots who wanted to cause trouble. Thankfully most England fans are not like that. Ironically our manager was the one and only Jackie Charlton. World Cup winner.

A minority of England fans have been a national shame for a long time, but post France 98 with passport confiscations etc it's largely a thing of the past.

Didn't England win Fans of the Tournament in Portugal 2004?


I was in a Irish pub when Landsdowne road got torn up. I apologised profusely though the Irish reaction was more one of pity than disgust.

I predict [scientifcally based on my very large English breakfast this morning versus an espresso (which is all that Montalbano has in the morning)] that England will win.


Even if you allow a full milk cappuccino and a rusk, we still top Italy.


If you analyse last night's match (Sp v Holl) you will see that coffee and biscuit is trumped by coffee and bread with ham and cheese.


Told you it was scientific.

Seconds before the same moment I was cursing Hodgson's caution and backing-off approach. Both sides very defensive and hoping for the long pass or breakaway run. After other games I've seen so far it's a bit like watching 2 old men pushing each other around in a toilet.

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