francklin pub

[edcam]

Yeah, let's litter LL with brightly coloured plastic. That'll look great.

[Sue]

jimbo1964 Wrote:

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> I think we all need to go down there tomorrow with

> our tape measures and flaming torches and find out

> just what the hell is going on.

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I think this is all about being sensitive to the needs of people using the pavement.

I can't imagine anybody wants to stop people being able to eat outside and enjoy the Summer, but there is a balance to be struck.

Franklins has always had (to the best of my recollection) one table round the corner and two or three immediately outside the bar in Lordship Lane, but now the tables are taking up a large part of the pavement and, at least when we passed by, making it very hard just for people who can walk on their own two feet, let alone for people in wheelchairs or pushing buggies.

They also have tables outside the farm shop which they use as additional tables for people eating, but (if memory serves) that area of pavement is much bigger and there is plenty of room both for the tables and for people walking down Lordship Lane.

[vgrant]

JimH Wrote:

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> miliaore Wrote:

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> > they have seats on the paivment and its not

> nice

> > or ligal

>

>

> It is both nice and legal!! Your spelling on the

> other hand should be neither...

[Jeremy]

Pugwash Wrote:

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> Why not go into Franklins and ask to see their

> table and chair licence. If they can have 6 chairs

> and they have 12 then it is clearly illegal for

> the additional chairs

Yeah, you could march in their demanding to see their paperwork.

Or perhaps you could politely suggest to them that people with prams or mobility problems find it difficult to pass, and see how they respond. I dunno, just throwing it out there...

[jimbo1964]

Well they should leave enough space to walk through easily with buggy/mobility scooter. Apart from that it should be fine. Is that car radio place still in existence? The one that had half the pavement fenced off? That always annoyed me.

[Hood83]

It's a shame people don't seem to think that clear access for disabled people is a relatively noble aim.

[JimH]

Hood83 Wrote:

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> It's a shame people don't seem to think that clear

> access for disabled people is a relatively noble

> aim.

What? Who doesnt? Access for disabled people should be everywhere it can be.

[Sue]

JimH Wrote:

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> Hood83 Wrote:

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> > It's a shame people don't seem to think that

> clear

> > access for disabled people is a relatively

> noble

> > aim.

>

>

> What? Who doesnt? Access for disabled people

> should be everywhere it can be.

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Quite a number of people on this thread seem to think it's more important that as many people as possible should be able to eat outside and have chairs and tables on the pavement than that Franklin's should leave sufficient space for disabled people (and others) to easily pass along a public pavement.

Surely a compromise can be reached? The pavement really is too narrow at that point for the number of chairs and tables they had out on Wednesday night - I don't know how many they have out normally, maybe not so many?

[jimbo1964]

I don't think anybody would want to wilfully block the path of disabled people (and others). Having not seen the table arrangement I'll have to defer to those that have.