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RosieH Wrote:

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> And Loz, as for forced - this is generally recognised to mean by dire financial need and

> mouths to feed, addiction, the threat of violence. There are doubtless other reasons, that you could

> educate yourself about if you chose to.


Big difference between those, Rosie. I don't really think 'mouths to feed', for instance, equates to 'forced', as it could equally apply to any job.


And I don't really appreciate your rather snide 'educate yourself' comment, either. I am reasonable well educated about the topic, thank you very much.

I don't believe that many prostitutes make a genuinely free choice to work the streets. Addiction, a history of abuse and direct coercion often plays a role. For some people I guess it's just difficulty seeing any alternatives. It can be debated ad nauseum and people will have their own views on it, but personally I think it's depressing.

But what is the alternative? Do we take this tired, middle-class, Guardianesque thinktheyknowitalls approach?


"These poor women - look at them. They have no other option in life but to prostitute themselves."

"What should we do?"

"Ban prostitution!!"


I understand why you are uncomfortable, but really, all we can so is make it as safe as possible and listen to the workers themselves and what they want/need.

Salsaboy Wrote:

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> If you ban prostitution, it will just move

> underground. At least this way the well meaning do

> gooder outreach workers know where to find the

> girls.


At least if it moves underground it will be no where near my back yard until the bakerloo extension reaches us in 2028

So it's some kind of 'middle class' indulgence not to take pleasure in seeing girls involved in street prostitution (which by any measure is an extremely dangerous trade)?


Loz Wrote:

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> But what is the alternative? Do we take this

> tired, middle-class, Guardianesque

> thinktheyknowitalls approach?

>

> "These poor women - look at them. They have no

> other option in life but to prostitute

> themselves."

> "What should we do?"

> "Ban prostitution!!"

>

> I understand why you are uncomfortable, but

> really, all we can so is make it as safe as

> possible and listen to the workers themselves and

> what they want/need.

StraferJack Wrote:

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> "all we can so is make it as safe as possible and

> listen to the workers themselves and what they

> want/need."

>

> I always thought THIS policy was a Guardian type position


Not in my many years reading it - they've always seemed to push the 'Swedish Model' of banning it and pushing it underground.


They do get an occasional (very good) writer in from the English Collective of Prostitutes, but her's seems a lone voice.

Baggs Wrote:

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> At least if it moves underground it will be no

> where near my back yard until the bakerloo

> extension reaches us in 2028


Do not fear, Bakerloo line will be going via Old Kent Rd, not ED or Peckham Rye! So come 2028, eastern European labourers won't be the only ones looking for jobs in the B&Q car park.


StraferJack Wrote:

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> I always thought THIS policy was a Guardian type position


Me too. Loz is a closet lefty Guardianista, etc etc

EDF's Law - 'As an EDF discussion grows longer, the probability of the term 'Guardianista' or 'middle class' being used as a pejorative approaches 1'


RosieH Wrote:

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> What's the Guardian equivalent of Godwin's Law?

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Weren't there some posts on this a while back? I

> seem to remember someone saying they were worried

> about their children being approached by potential

> punters.


xxxxxxx


I remember a thread like that, and I thought it was a wind-up?


ETA: I mean I thought the original post on the thread was a wind-up, not the person who was worried about their children being approached (and I'm assuming the references to "children" in this case to be teenage girls)

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