To the Cycling Adult with a child on Goodrich Road at 22.45 on Sat 26th July

[Otta]

"so if a residential road is narrow and full of parked cars do you NEED a law to say slow down to 10?"

If you want everyone to do it then yes. "drive at appropriate speed regardless of the limit" is far too open to interpretation.

I'm not suggesting drivers just shrug their shoulders and think "not my problem", everyone needs to look and concentrate. But I am not convinced by your repeated claims that you'd see everything in time. I don't drive so I'm only going on gut feeling, but posts from others that do drive also seem to suggest you can't be so sure.

Dogs? Should be on a lead.

Kids? Shouldn't be crossing roads on their own (I'm thinking small kids here)

Older kids - should have enough sense to learn to cross a road safely.

[Loz]

Interesting question: at 20mph, would you rather be hit by a car or bicycle?

Cars are bigger and have more momentum, but are built with smoother lines and more safety features and you are (if you are an adult) more likely to be swept up onto the bonnet.

Bikes are lighter, but have more pointy bits and built with no third-party safety features.

Which is worse?

[Otta]

That's a bit like saying "would you rather be punched once in the face by a heavyweight, or take a 5 punch combo from a lightweight?"

Both would suck.

[Jeremy]

I'd go for the bike every time TBH.

But a driver claiming they have the judgement to avoid almost any colision with a pedestrian... far fetched to say the least!

[DulwichVillageLady]

LOL you've all been entertained by a DVL post.

I'm back!

[DulwichVillageLady]

You're too easy EDF... rofl.

[Otta]

Aw bless, you are so desperate to convince yourself and everyone else that you're a clever troll that has suckered everyone in, whereas actually no one has talked about the OP for pages now.

Loser.

[StraferJack]

Hang on - aren't these DVL's first posts on this thread ?- how is "she" able to say "LOL you've all been entertained by a DVL post. "

[Otta]

I assumed s/he was claiming to the OP, but the OP seems to have posted plenty before.

Oh DVL, that's even sadder.

[Jeremy]

Time to put differences aside and unite in ridicule of this sad individual.

[mako]

To try and get something of value out of these 7 pages. Where locally would be a good place to start teaching a 9 year old to ride on the road? (in the day with a hi vis etc obviously)

[Loz]

DulwichVillageLady Wrote:

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> LOL you've all been entertained by a DVL post.

>

> I'm back!

I rather doubt this is your work. A quick look at 'cedges' previous posts show a reasonably good grasp of English grammar.

[Applespider]

mako Wrote:

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> To try and get something of value out of these 7

> pages. Where locally would be a good place to

> start teaching a 9 year old to ride on the road?

> (in the day with a hi vis etc obviously)

I'd head for Dulwich Park initially and get your child used to positioning him/herself a couple of feet out from the edge of the carriage way and maintaining that position. You can get them to practice looking over their shoulder and signalling there. Going one way around the triangles at the gates while signalling at each turn and then going the other way around.

Then you can progress to the road that goes to the main gates. You can practice where to ride if there are parked cars (i.e. a door length's out). There will be a few cars at a very low speed.

There are a few roads around Dulwich Village that are fairly quiet and quite flat which is useful to start with. Burbage Road tends to be fairly quiet. Has a cross junction with Turney Road that's still quiet easy to negotiate (particularly at the moment where part of Turney Rd is closed off so there's less traffic). You could go all way down to Half Moon Lane, turn left and then left again onto Stradella Road and back up again. Good luck!

[mako]

Thanks applesider. Good thinking

[LadyDeliah]

I couldn't come out to play because I hadn't finished my homework. Bedtime now, but yeh, you wait. I'll be back!

[maxxi]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Time to put differences aside and unite in

> ridicule of this sad individual.

At least until the schools go back and he/she has homework to be getting on with.