'Fake' Vegetarians

[aquarius moon]

As I don't know your wife, don't know why she is veggie. If it's for health reasons, can understand her desire to lapse.

If it's because she is an animal lover & finds it morally wrong, sorry but how can she even get the urge to try? The thought of eating meat makes me feel sick.

If she is doing it for the animals, but finding it hard, I commend her for sticking to her beliefs. She is wonderful x

[Otta]

As I said earlier, it started off as about the animals when she was young, but now she does it more for environmental reasons.

[Lowlander]

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> We've been there/done that before Lowlander.

>

> Really don't want to do it again.

Please do point me in that direction, I can't recall. So you are happy to consume milk products from sick cows and eat eggs from battery farmed chickens?

As before, I admire that you don't eat meat and avoid restaurants that serve foie gras.

But if you don't care where your eggs and dairy come from, that's hypocritical.

More than happy to be corrected.

[maxxi]

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > But seriously, how long do you need to not eat

> > meat before you're a genuine vegetarian?

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> Forever!

So... given the capacity for possible lapses throughout one's life... the only TRUE Vegetarian... is a dead vegetarian?

[aquarius moon]

Lowlander Wrote:

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>

> Please do point me in that direction, I can't

> recall. So you are happy to consume milk products

> from sick cows and eat eggs from battery farmed

> chickens?

>

> As before, I admire that you don't eat meat and

> avoid restaurants that serve foie gras.

>

> But if you don't care where your eggs and dairy

> come from, that's hypocritical.

>

> More than happy to be corrected.

My memory is obviously better than yours. Look back through your old posts.

As I said then, I don't drink milk or buy dairy products. I use dairy free alternatives for cooking & drink my tea/coffee black.

If I eat out, I have been known to eat cheese, only because there is rarely any veggie option on the menu that doesn't contain it. But as I only eat out approx once a year, irrelevant anyway.

As for eggs, even free-range are sometimes not as advertised. Happy eggs for example are not from happy hens. The eggs I buy are not only free range but also organic and from a trusted source.

I can't believe that you could even think that I'd buy battery eggs.

[aquarius moon]

maxxi Wrote:

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> So... given the capacity for possible lapses

> throughout one's life... the only TRUE

> Vegetarian... is a dead vegetarian?

I always rely on you maxxi for making me smile :)

And yes I will be a dead vegetarian as never planning to eat meat again.

[Lowlander]

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> Lowlander Wrote:

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> >

> > Please do point me in that direction, I can't

> > recall. So you are happy to consume milk

> products

> > from sick cows and eat eggs from battery farmed

> > chickens?

> >

> > As before, I admire that you don't eat meat and

> > avoid restaurants that serve foie gras.

> >

> > But if you don't care where your eggs and dairy

> > come from, that's hypocritical.

> >

> > More than happy to be corrected.

>

>

> My memory is obviously better than yours. Look

> back through your old posts.

>

> As I said then, I don't drink milk or buy dairy

> products. I use dairy free alternatives for

> cooking & drink my tea/coffee black.

>

> If I eat out, I have been known to eat cheese,

> only because there is rarely any veggie option on

> the menu that doesn't contain it. But as I only

> eat out approx once a year, irrelevant anyway.

>

> As for eggs, even free-range are sometimes not as

> advertised. Happy eggs for example are not from

> happy hens. The eggs I buy are not only free range

> but also organic and from a trusted source.

> I can't believe that you could even think that I'd

> buy battery eggs.

Your memory is better than mine, and my apologies for forgetting.

I know a few vegetarians who don't consciously buy battery eggs, but will for example eat egg mayonnaise sandwiches, omelettes, vegetarian breakfast with eggs, even mince pies; all which may have non-free range eggs.

And if you willingly eat dairy without knowing the provenance of the milk, despite being an ethical vegetarian, it's irrelevant whether it's once a year or once a day. You shouldn't do it!

[Jeremy]

If you ingest bodily fluids following certain activities, does that break your veggie oath?

[KidKruger]

Darn it Jeremy, what if you're a Jain (or your partner is) ?

All that effort sweeping bugs out of your path as you turn over during sleep, masking your mouth in case you breathe-in and ingest insects, all to blow it by ingesting someone's body fluids.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that would blow it right off!

[RosieH]

Provided they've been eating fair trade organic pineapple, it's all good.

[Loz]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> If you ingest bodily fluids following certain

> activities, does that break your veggie oath?

Veggies would be OK, but it would definitely be against vegan principles.

Never date a vegan.

[El Pibe]

god yes. la piba not eating potatoes is bad enough. Trying to accommodate a vegan would be el fin!!

[the-e-dealer]

With K*nts like Gordon Ramsay around you cant avoid meat even if you are a vegetarian all you can do is make a best effort to be a veggie. Apart fro my teenage years I've been a veggie all my life. Never eaten meat never had a bacon roll and apart from one mouthful of a maccy D - They gave me the wrong burger never had a maccy Donalds. It was tasteless by the way, How can you spot it is meat?

[Loz]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> With K*nts like Gordon Ramsay around you cant

> avoid meat even if you are a vegetarian all you

> can do is make a best effort to be a veggie.

How exactly does Ramsay stop you being a veggie? Are you saying he pops around on occasion and shoves a pork sausage in your mouth? Treats you to a spit roast? Shows you how to enjoy a nice meat and two veg?

[Otta]

*shudders*

[the-e-dealer]

Gordon (Bennet) ramsay boasts that he slips meat into veggies food.

[Otta]

Seriously?

That's absolutely disgusting.

[the-e-dealer]

yeah he is isnt he!

[pommie]

I have been a vegetarian for 16 years now and I don't eat meat because I don't want to eat animal carcasses and also I don't agree with they way they are killed too.

[Lowlander]

pommie Wrote:

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> I have been a vegetarian for 16 years now and I

> don't eat meat because I don't want to eat animal

> carcasses and also I don't agree with they way

> they are killed too.

Do you care about how egg laying hens and dairy cows are looked after?