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Shambles, sorry, was in a persecuted mood this morning having just read a load of anti-child and parent bile elsewhere on EDF. My opinion of the old Herne stands though, I live on St Aidans and the previous landlords of the pub were very bad neighbours - twice letting catering oil spill onto the pavement, then leaving it to stink up that end of the street. But Again, sorry, wasn't meaning to be personal.

Nero Wrote:

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> I know what you mean about being excited about

> going to a pub with grown ups. But in my case, in

> the north of England in the 70s, kids were very

> much an exception. Having a pub that is actually

> touting for the littl'uns and their parents'

> business doesn't sit comfortably with me, that's

> all. I still maintain that Britain is way too

> child-centred, and the Herne Hill situation would

> support this view, IMHO. Nero


yeh they were probably left home alone while mum and dad had a great night down the club chuckling away to the harmless humour of bernard manning et al.

kids in pubs/restuarants is a obviously a sore point with many of you but somehow i feel that parent(s) bringing little jack or jill in for a bite to eat is more than acceptable.you have to appreciate that at their tender age they do tend to lack the finer aspects of pub etiqutte and may from time to time be a little loud and disruptive but if you pays your way!!!! where i draw the line is when you have 6 snotty nosed brats all < 2yrs old let loose in an establishment and fed a diet of crisps and coke while their 19yr old parents gently absolve themselves of all responsibility in a lake of alcopops and marlboro lights throughout the course of the day.thats wrong.

By the way - If you go to the Herne after 6pm, you will find it pleasantly child free and they are now doing food on Sunday evenings.

In addition, I know that they are turning the outside barn into a bar / BBQ / grill area, so there are plenty of reasons to keep the dining room / bar area child free. Have a word in the (New) managers ear. I'm sure they will listen as kids don't pay the bills - nor do the mums nursing a 1/2 of lime & soda for 2 hrs. They need local 'dinkies' who have 3 hr lunches with 2 bottles of wine a head.

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