'Charter East Dulwich' Consultation - call for unity

[Mick Mac]

You are going back a few years there Otta. But I like your ability to recollect your misunderstanding of the point even to this day ;)

[LondonMix]

I don't understand your question. I won't be hurt by a second nodal point but neither will I benefit as my house is likely in catchment anyway. So if you are asking if I have a bias, the answer is no. If you are asking why I care, I'm not sure what you think a legitimate reason for caring would be.

I've hurt my back and am off work for two weeks. I'm probably more engaged for this reason than I could be if I was at work.

Next week, I won't be able to respond in detail anymore, I'm sure to many people's relief :)

I'm not involved with the Charter or steering committee etc if that's what you want to know.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> LondonMix Wrote:

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> -----

> > Hi MickMac--

> >

> > I hoped the discussion would focus on areas

> where

> > legally the Charter has flexibility to make

> > modifications that would influence the

> composition

> > and ethos of the intake-- SEN, siblings,

> banding,

> > and lottery.

> >

>

> and are you therefore involved in the process in

> some way, or just interested in the debate?

[championofthehill]

Gubodge Wrote:

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> Lily, the same letter has been given to me at

> Goodrich (twice now) including at a meeting about

> secondary school transfers, so directly targeting

> the yr 5 parent whose children could form the

> first cohort at the new school. I was also

> buttonholed outside the school today about it, and

> did not receive a particularly friendly response

> when I said I supported the nodal point being on

> the school site. The letter has also been emailed

> to all parents by the PTA. While it is not the

> school itself that has been lobbying, the claims

> that there has been no organised campaign for an

> eastern nodal point are, to be honest, bullshit.

Trine Adams, how do you respond to this?

I think you need to re-look at the nasty accusations you have been making about DKH school and to the councillor who has obviously rattled your cage so badly.

I also enjoyed *Bob*'s comment about East Dulwich station.

[Mick Mac]

LM - no, I was asking if you were involved, perhaps on the other side of the consultation, as you appear very interested in the process and its outcomes, but you are neither self interested nor not necessarily supporting the arguments from a wider ED perspective and therefore your views seem aligned with the current intentions of the school. I wondered why that was. There doesn't seem to be a reason other than perhaps you think the current approach is fairest and would like to argue for it to be maintained.

[Mick Mac]

redjam Wrote:

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> Mick Mack - there is a shortage of non-faith,

> co-ed school places in Camberwell. Do you think

> it's fair if a child in Camberwell loses out on a

> place to an East Dulwich child who lives further

> away?

>

no - but I think its wrong that those already catered for by an outstanding school, now have another school to choose from, whilst others living in parts of Camberwell or ED have no additional choice.

[HannahSE23]

This thread is getting a bit tedious now...

It's very who said what/why are you interested/i never said that.

Trine Adams - unfortunately there will be no unity on this matter. It's very heated and understandably so. Everybody wants the best for their children and for their children to get into a decent non faith co-ed school.

I reckon we should all crack on fighting as hard as we can for where we want the nodal point to be, then accept if we've won/lost with good grace and move on.

[LondonMix]

MickMack

I think a nodal point offsite is not fair under the circumstances. I actually think a lottery is fairest solution but not many like the idea and it sounds like Charter threw cold water on it at the Heber consultation! I also think the priority ranking for certain children with special needs coming after siblings should be changed.

while I think the admission policy could be better, I don't agree with what some people are pushing for. Overall, what they are proposing is reasonably fair.

[Mick Mac]

Hoonaloona

what is happening on this thread is as Trine Adams asked - that people debate the nodal point to improve their understanding of what is the fairest solution and having done that, respond to the consultation.

What TA also asked for was that schools refrain from canvassing and organising opinion - this is not happening on this thread.

[Pickle]

I'll admit to not following this thread at all, as we will be on the other side of the world for secondary education. However, the lobbying outside our school in the last few days had been aggressive and rude.

Having a piece of paper thrust in your face, when trying to get kids in the school gates with an abrupt "you have to sign this" is not pleasant. I get that it's important, but please, those who are lobbying for signatures, please understand that not everyone has read this thread and knows what the issues are. Two days in a row the same man has taken this line with me, but never even attempted to explain what he wants me to sign.

[Mick Mac]

LM - that's fine we will agree to differ on what's fair.

[*Bob*]

There was a posse up at the school today talking nodal points ('nodal point'.. a phrase set to become the 'new weapons of mass destruction') and how it had been moved to X but we should press for it to be more back around around Y which would give people at that school more of a chance - so I raised my fist in the air and joined in the chant: 'One, Two, Three Four - Nodal where it was before'. It was brilliant - we all hugged each other and I went home feeling totally empowered.

Unfortunately, when I got home and hit Google Maps I realised those people must all have been from the 'other' side of the school and in fact nodal point X is closer.

Naturally, these people are now my bitter enemies.

[*Bob*]

In short, everybody wants the nodal point just to the left of their blue bin.

That's just not going to be possible.

[Otta]

Pickle Wrote:

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> I'll admit to not following this thread at all, as

> we will be on the other side of the world for

> secondary education. However, the lobbying

> outside our school in the last few days had been

> aggressive and rude.

>

> Having a piece of paper thrust in your face, when

> trying to get kids in the school gates with an

> abrupt "you have to sign this" is not pleasant. I

> get that it's important, but please, those who are

> lobbying for signatures, please understand that

> not everyone has read this thread and knows what

> the issues are. Two days in a row the same man

> has taken this line with me, but never even

> attempted to explain what he wants me to sign.

Ooo, if it happens again, do that thing where you take it from him, tear it in to several pieces (smaller the better) and throw it up in the air before walking off.

[LondonMix]

Haha! The battle lines have been drawn.

It would be funnier if it wasn't true...

*Bob* Wrote:

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> There was a posse up at the school today talking

> nodal points ('nodal point'.. a phrase set to

> become the 'new weapons of mass destruction') and

> how it had been moved to X but we should press for

> it to be more back around around Y which would

> give people at that school more of a chance - so I

> raised my fist in the air and joined in the chant:

> 'One, Two, Three Four - Nodal where it was

> before'. It was brilliant - we all hugged each

> other and I went home feeling totally empowered.

>

> Unfortunately, when I got home and hit Google Maps

> I realised those people must all have been from

> the 'other' side of the school and in fact nodal

> point X is closer.

>

> Naturally, these people are now my bitter enemies.

[Trine Adams]

On that final note, I have requested for this thread to be locked. The discussion has run its course and is not getting us further forward nearer a resolution.