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Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Probably too early - but put half my stake on at a

> range of 2.9 to 3.35 - could not help myself.

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> Will put the rest on when I'm sure he will run but

> the odds are now 2.0 on betfair - I seem to have

> taken the odds down from 3.35 to 2.0 :-$ but there

> was not much capacity available.



As Rip is now "odds on" I'm pleased with my odds of > 2/1. Even more pleased if he actually wins of course.

Don't think I'll put second half of bet on as the odds are now too short.


You backing him on course RD? Would be great to see him race but wife out all day so its TV for me.

I think so, if you are running to form.


I won on the US Open tennis - backed the winner (the argie chap) in the third set and in the final set I hedged on Federer so I had a guaranteed profit (you are playing with my head now), and of course I would have been better off if I had not hedged.

Long odds Quids - he's become like the son Admin never had.


Anyway back to real matters:


I see Delegator as Rips main challenge and at 11/4 I have had a saver on him. Partly I was spooked by betting on Betfair having been suspended for some reason (Mastercraftsman a possible non runner) but with Rip's foot problems I thought it logical to cover my bet on Rip.

Big money on Rip though so hope he will roar home.

Mastercraftsman a non runner. Not sure if thats good for Rip, but MC too good for a pacemaker role.


Rip V Delagator for me. Johnny Murtagh does not fill me with confidence, he does not seem sure how to run the horse. He has a high cruising speed according to JM so I think he needs to be at the front, he does not seem to be a horse who overtakes other horses at speed so JMs tactics are key and I think he needs to get RVW into the lead earlyish and push ahead as he did at Goodwood.

At Goodwood Paco Boy was much quicker over the last half furlong but RVW had too much of a lead, he needs to establish a similar lead today.

If Murtagh was clearer about his tactics I'd be putting more money on but I'm not sure he is going to dictate the race to the horse - I feel if he is winning with 2f to go he will be a banker.

Sorry MM, I've backed Delegator. Not much money though, so I won't be too upset if he doesn't. And Vale of York in the 2.30. Only last time out Frankie was on Vale of York, but this time he's chosen Frozen Power. I hope he's wrong and doesn't go through the card today.


Changing topic slightly - do you think Sea The Stars will get a mile and a half? I think he will (his dam won the Arc and he's won over 1m2f with plenty left in the tank), but a friend thinks he won't stay. What do people on here think?

Kells - Don't we already know that STS will say the mile and a half as he won the Derby?


I backed Delegator in the Guineas, yet another horse I backed this summer to be beaten to the post by STS. Delagator is a good horse and Frankie might try to run it from the front, in which case I'll be worried, if he leads.


Sorry to hear about the Ascot trip being cancelled RD, you must be gutted.


Todays expectation reminds me of the best race I ever saw at Ascot when I went to see Galileo against Fantastic Light in the King George about 6/7 years ago I guess.

Galileo with Mick Kinane was the the big favourite against FL and Frankie. Galileo hit the front at about the 3 furlong point and the grandstand roared. Frankie pegged him back though and as they passed us just inside the furlong post FL had headed Galileo, but over the last half furlong Galileo pulled out a bit more to just edge it. It was one of the great races. For my 40th birthday my wife bought me a print of the two horses battling against each other.


I see todays race as possibly panning out in similar fashion, being a duel between Rip and Delegator with Rip hopefully holding Delegator off in the final furlong. Thats my hope anyway. Some are supporting Quids choice Aqlaam who is improving but Rips rating is 130 ish, and STS is 135 so Rip is very highly rated. Fingers crossed.

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