Betting Matters....

[Mick Mac]

???? Wrote:

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> I think I am going to be on Aqlaam

I have been waiting for this race for some time. How could you oppose me quids, why don't you jump on Rip and make some money.

[Mick Mac]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Sorry to hear that about Van Winkle.:(

Eh Tone? Wot you mean?

[????]

RIP

[Mick Mac]

Yes very good.

[????]

STS for the Arc is going to be my lump on

[Mick Mac]

5/4 is short quids but good luck. Will see what happens to rip before looking at arc. Hard to oppose sts even at short odds.

[????]

I have gained more out of that colt than it has gained out of me

[Mick Mac]

STS now 11/10 Quids based upon good weather prediction for the next week.

[Mick Mac]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Probably too early - but put half my stake on at a

> range of 2.9 to 3.35 - could not help myself.

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> Will put the rest on when I'm sure he will run but

> the odds are now 2.0 on betfair - I seem to have

> taken the odds down from 3.35 to 2.0 :-$ but there

> was not much capacity available.

As Rip is now "odds on" I'm pleased with my odds of > 2/1. Even more pleased if he actually wins of course.

Don't think I'll put second half of bet on as the odds are now too short.

You backing him on course RD? Would be great to see him race but wife out all day so its TV for me.

[????]

You know what I'm going to suggest dont you Mic?

[Mick Mac]

I think so, if you are running to form.

I won on the US Open tennis - backed the winner (the argie chap) in the third set and in the final set I hedged on Federer so I had a guaranteed profit (you are playing with my head now), and of course I would have been better off if I had not hedged.

[red devil]

Yes Mick, I'm off to Ascot on Sat, weather promises to be good too, I'm taking my camera so hopefully a snap of Rip coming first past the post will appear hear on Sunday...

[Mick Mac]

Get that picture RD, don't return without it.

Have a great time.

[????]

Odds on BBW still being allowed to start threads by the end of tomorrow?

[Mick Mac]

Long odds Quids - he's become like the son Admin never had.

Anyway back to real matters:

I see Delegator as Rips main challenge and at 11/4 I have had a saver on him. Partly I was spooked by betting on Betfair having been suspended for some reason (Mastercraftsman a possible non runner) but with Rip's foot problems I thought it logical to cover my bet on Rip.

Big money on Rip though so hope he will roar home.

[????]

Still supended on Betfair. I'm gonna leave this one I think...Good Luck MM - I think you're probably in the money - and have a good day RD.

[Mick Mac]

He still has to do the business Quids. I shall be a little nervous. He's only won one Group 1 so the current odds are far from generous, good as he is.

[Mick Mac]

Mastercraftsman a non runner. Not sure if thats good for Rip, but MC too good for a pacemaker role.

Rip V Delagator for me. Johnny Murtagh does not fill me with confidence, he does not seem sure how to run the horse. He has a high cruising speed according to JM so I think he needs to be at the front, he does not seem to be a horse who overtakes other horses at speed so JMs tactics are key and I think he needs to get RVW into the lead earlyish and push ahead as he did at Goodwood.

At Goodwood Paco Boy was much quicker over the last half furlong but RVW had too much of a lead, he needs to establish a similar lead today.

If Murtagh was clearer about his tactics I'd be putting more money on but I'm not sure he is going to dictate the race to the horse - I feel if he is winning with 2f to go he will be a banker.

[Mick Mac]

I'm beginning to think this thread is a bit of a monologue. (Feel free to comment, especially before 4.15 pm - as after that hindsight comments/I told you so, are of no interest....)

[Kells]

Sorry MM, I've backed Delegator. Not much money though, so I won't be too upset if he doesn't. And Vale of York in the 2.30. Only last time out Frankie was on Vale of York, but this time he's chosen Frozen Power. I hope he's wrong and doesn't go through the card today.

Changing topic slightly - do you think Sea The Stars will get a mile and a half? I think he will (his dam won the Arc and he's won over 1m2f with plenty left in the tank), but a friend thinks he won't stay. What do people on here think?

[red devil]

Trip to Ascot cancelled...:'(

Now that MC has withdrawn no bet on the big race either, fancied some EW on Aqlaam...

[????]

I think STS will stay and win...and have backed him way back (still only 2.8 or something though)

[Kells]

I backed STS at 2.9. This thread is a bad influence though - I used to get teased for having a secret subscription to the sporting life, now it's not such a secret!

[Mick Mac]

Kells - Don't we already know that STS will say the mile and a half as he won the Derby?

I backed Delegator in the Guineas, yet another horse I backed this summer to be beaten to the post by STS. Delagator is a good horse and Frankie might try to run it from the front, in which case I'll be worried, if he leads.

Sorry to hear about the Ascot trip being cancelled RD, you must be gutted.

Todays expectation reminds me of the best race I ever saw at Ascot when I went to see Galileo against Fantastic Light in the King George about 6/7 years ago I guess.

Galileo with Mick Kinane was the the big favourite against FL and Frankie. Galileo hit the front at about the 3 furlong point and the grandstand roared. Frankie pegged him back though and as they passed us just inside the furlong post FL had headed Galileo, but over the last half furlong Galileo pulled out a bit more to just edge it. It was one of the great races. For my 40th birthday my wife bought me a print of the two horses battling against each other.

I see todays race as possibly panning out in similar fashion, being a duel between Rip and Delegator with Rip hopefully holding Delegator off in the final furlong. Thats my hope anyway. Some are supporting Quids choice Aqlaam who is improving but Rips rating is 130 ish, and STS is 135 so Rip is very highly rated. Fingers crossed.

[Kells]

Mick Mac, thanks, how stupid do I feel?! Agree that Rip is highly rated, I'd like to see him win. And I'd like to be at Ascot today too.