Betting Matters....

[Mick Mac]

Narnia Wrote:

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> > No - one bet on Rip van Winkle - lost in photo

> > finish in good race.

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> > Might do better in the Breeders Cup this year.

> ??

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> In case you haven't heard Mick, Rips been retired.

Shocking. He still owes me some money - thought he was lined up for Breeders Cup declan - are you sure.

THE brilliant Rip Van Winkle, winner of three Group 1s, including this year's Juddmonte International Stakes at York,has been retired due to a setback, it was announced to the Racing Post on Wednesday night.

The four-year-old, who was general third favourite for the Breeders' Cup Mile at around 7-1 and a 16-1 shot for the Classic, will stand alongside his sire Galileo at Coolmore Stud in Ireland.

O'Brien told the Racing Post: "Rip Van Winkle has had a very slight setback and, while it is very minor, it would have meant forcing him to get him to Churchill Downs. So the decision has been made to retire him."

He added: "Everyone knows how good I always thought he was. His big thing was his incredible speed. We knew he had that from the first day he worked. He did win the Juddmonte International over a mile and a quarter this year, but he was a miler first and foremost."

Twice a winner over 7f at two, Rip Van Winkle came up against Sea The Stars in three consecutive races last season, finishing fourth behind him in the 2,000 Guineas and the Investec Derby, before running him to a length in the Coral-Eclipse Stakes.

Troubled by problems with his feet last year, he went on to beat Paco Boy in the Sussex Stakes and Zacinto in the Sony-sponsored Queen Elizabeth II Stakes. He disappointed in the Breeders' Cup Classic, finishing 12th behind Zenyatta at the end of a busy season.

This year he was foiled by Canford Cliffs in the Sussex before winning the International at York in August, when he pounced late to beat Twice Over half a length.

He subsequently ran second to Cape Blanco in the Tattersalls Millions IrishChampion Stakes and, on what was to be his final start, lost out by a nose to Poet's Voice when bidding to win the QEII again.

He bagged ?1,201,333 in prize-money across 14 races in three seasons for Sue Magnier, Michael Tabor and Derrick Smith

[jester]

Narnia you stated 9/1 in old currency aint it the same odds in new currency or any currency?

[Narnia]

It amounts to the same thing but decimal is stated differently.

[Mick Mac]

Breeders Cup hat trick for the wonderful Goldikova. What a turn of speed to win the BC Mile for the 3rd year running.

[????]

yup. I had a small piece :)) What price 9-0 for The Hoops though?

[Mick Mac]

betting small tonight just for fun but have backed the big Z at near 2s as it seems a steal compared to odds on in the states. Shame workforce did not run.

[????]

I'm having a great night at Poker in HORSE (Hold 'em, Omaha Hi/l, Razz, Stud, Stud hi/lo) tournament currently 5th out of 100 entrants with only 27 left so on for a big pay out plus won 2 Omaha hi/lo single table tournaments for $26 each, I love playing 3 tables at a time.

[Mick Mac]

an amazing race. Big Z came from 30 lengths back to lose by a head. Will the jockey take the blame? It seemed the horse was not even running in the opening phase of the race. They are calling it her best race despite losing but may be jockey error. Americans are not happy.

[Mick Mac]

???? Wrote:

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> I'm having a great night at Poker in HORSE (Hold

> 'em, Omaha Hi/l, Razz, Stud, Stud hi/lo)

> tournament currently 5th out of 100 entrants with

> only 27 left so on for a big pay out plus won 2

> Omaha hi/lo single table tournaments for $26 each,

> I love playing 3 tables at a time.

Good luck. I know its all skill ;-)

[Tarot]

Is it true that a Betfred betting shop has opened in Lordshiplane? If so where.?

[SCSB79]

Bit of a novice when it comes to betting...

Does anyone do the game in Coral where you bet on a footy game having more than 2 goals in it? A friend of mine was 2 goals off winning ?750 last week from a ?5 bet.

So thought I'd have a pop this weekend... ended up being 2 goals off winning ?375 from a ?5 bet...

I think it seems an easier/more likely way of winning some cash than betting on the winner in 8 games???

[SCSB79]

Today's bets:

Match to have more than 2 goals:

Coventry, QPR, Plymouth, Cheltenham and Shrewsbury @ ?5 = ?95.72 winnings.

Bristol City, QPR, Brighton, Leyton Orient, Walsall, Aldershot, Cheltenham and Port Vale @ ?2 = ?300.50 winnings.

Match to have a goal in the first 25 minutes:

Man U, Hull, Charlton, Rochdale and Lincoln @ ?2 = ?50.51 winnings.

Cardiff, Doncaster, Dag&Red, Aldershot, Lincoln, Celtic @ ?1 = ?57.12 winnings.

I bet I win nothing!!!

[SCSB79]

Bang goes the goals in 25 minutes. 0-0 still in Dag&Red, Aldershot, Lincoln, Man U and Hull!

[SCSB79]

SCSB79 Wrote:

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> Today's bets:

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> Match to have more than 2 goals:

> Bristol City, QPR, Brighton, Leyton Orient,

> Walsall, Aldershot, Cheltenham and Port Vale @ ?2

> = ?300.50 winnings.

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> I bet I win nothing!!!

Darn - just 3 goals short, one each in three games.

Oh well, next week!

[Mick Mac]

Win on Tocca Ferro in first race on C4. Small bets only these days. Hennessy Gold Cup at 3 today.

[Mick Mac]

And a win on Big Bucks. ?10 bet returns ?13. ?3 profit.

[Mick Mac]

Have tried Burton Port as a bit of an outsider in the Henessey, he's only 6 years old so its a big ask but I went to Burton Port in Donegal on my holidays once.

[Narnia]

I had a tenner on the Arse. Made me sweat. About a tenner profit. Have another one on England, NZ and Ireland. Probably lose my profit there.

[Mick Mac]

Burton Port a close second and came from a long way back, but small profit for the 3 races.

Looks like a good bet to me Declan. England and Ireland games could be close though. Argentina not what they were a couple of years ago so Ireland to edge that one, NZ to win by 20 points and England to edge a cloe affair with SA. I think England is the risk as they are well capable of winning but you never know quite what you will get from England. (having said that its probably half time already but don't know how its going).

[Narnia]

What's going on...........they lost..........wallies!

[Mick Mac]

I suggested England might be the risky bet there Declan. They seem to go from looking like world beaters to also rans from one match to the next.

[????]

Had a bet on Scary Al...no joy. Also had a bet on the Boy Band to win X-Factor at 9s. And England to win the series before yesterday's play when they were 2.3

[SCSB79]

Won ?29 with a one pound bet on Dover to score the last goal of the day on Sky Sports Soccer Saturday.

Nice.

[????]

You'll never make money in the long term with those sorts of shots SCS...just lose money sensibly like Mick, Declan and me ;-)

[Mick Mac]

Kauto Star lined up to win his fifth straight King George today. Short odds but worth a small bet just to be able to cheer him home if he wins. I've been on him at least three of the other times he has won the race.