Cilla Black....deceased :(

[Blah Blah]

I found red devils pic a bit uncomfortable too.

[Chick]

She was a rabid Tory who loved Thatcher.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Surprised we haven't had some nonsense about Cilla

> being a salt-of-the-earth working class

> entertainer of the people, etc.

[red devil]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I agree minder, it's crossing a line that doesn't

> need to be crossed. I'm sick of this modern

> culture of mocking those no longer here to defend

> themselves. If you didn't like the person stay

> schtum and don't say anything, at least in the

> short term whilst people are grieving. Have a bit

> of bloody dignity. You wouldn't like if it were

> one of your loved ones being referred.

>

> Louisa.

Really Louisa? So how come when you first saw the pic there wasn't an audible sharp intake of breath and the sound of milk bottles dropping to the floor coming from you, and instead we get a 'witticism' about Cilla's hair?

Still, why give up an opportunity to come charging in with your People's Pitchfork when it suits.

FWIW, I think the only thing that the pic is mocking is the 'grief industry' that kicks into gear every time a so-called celebrity snuffs it, Cecil the Lion is a bit of a giveaway in that respect doncha think?...

[Blah Blah]

I diagree red Devil. You are not just mocking 'the grief industry' (whatever that is) you are also mocking the people who have died. Death is something we will all experience, and in some cases it will be a painful experience. People in the public have always made news upon their death - there's nothing new in that.

[*Bob*]

red devil Wrote:

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> Really Louisa? So how come when you first saw the

> pic there wasn't an audible sharp intake of breath

> and the sound of milk bottles dropping to the

> floor coming from you, and instead we get a

> 'witticism' about Cilla's hair?

It was probably a delayed reaction, RD. This is quite common when people are, er, 'grieving'.

Good grief.

[red devil]

Like I said, the inclusion of Cecil is a bit of a giveaway...

[????]

Careful RD be careful with animals...before you'll know it you'll be accussed of Hate Crimes and be threatened that your posts will sent to the police....that's the laughable thing that actually happened to me on the Forum yesterday!

[Otta]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> you are also

> mocking the people who have died.

I doubt they're particularly bothered, what with being dead and stuff.

[Jeremy]

Chick Wrote:

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> She was a rabid Tory who loved Thatcher.

Plenty of working class tory voters out there, you know.

I have no problem with RD's picture. I saw it mainly as a send-up of the mawkish, global grieving for an animal (Jimmy Kimmel crying on TV over Cecil the Lion... FFS..)

[Louisa]

We are all animals and we all have the same fate. The media will of course report on things excessively during silly season (kids summer holidays), they've always done that. Why do we on here need to make a point about that by sending it up? How about, a few respectful RIP posts in the correct thread and leave it at that. Rather than posting pictures and going off on the tangent (as per) about the excessive coverage of grief.

RD I didn't personally find your picture offensive to me as an individual, but if I were close family stumbling across that picture online I think it might hit home a little harder. But hey, who cares, as long as it doesn't affect us lot in any way, fine post it up! Got any other memorable humorous pictures to share?

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

If you find yourself attempting to explain why the picture might be funny, you're already wasting your time.

[Louisa]

If you find yourself attempting to explain why it's 'funny' then it's obviously already 'not funny' and potentially offensive to someone else, no?

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

no

[*Bob*]

You're potentially offensive to people half the time - and you don't give two tits. No?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Decorum on the forum.. please!

[Louisa]

Offence takes many forms, but there should be moral boundaries IMO. Especially during periods of grief. Bit of empathy? Is that a dirty word in 2015?

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

Oh yeah - sorry, I forgot. YOU get to decide whether YOU?RE being offensive to anyone - and everyone else just has to suck it up cos you just speak as you find and stuff and so what yeah?

But everyone else must abide by your rules as and when you make them up, or as in this case - change your mind a few hours later.. when you realise there might be a bit of mileage in it.

[Louisa]

*Bob* once again you turn the argument on its head to take away from the potential offence caused to grieving families, and bring it back to me. This isn't about me on this occasion. YOU do not decide when YOU can pull people up on things with your 'words of wisdom' and 'sarcastic banter' as a way of defending offence. You defend the right to ridicule and and the right to mock when it suits, but you then also pull me up on my speaking my mind and compare like for like. Two completely different things.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

Let?s just have a recap, shall we

Posted by Louisa Yesterday, 06:34PM

I'm struggling to see where the lion's mane stops and cilla's hair starts.

Posted by Louisa Yesterday, 11:37PM

I'm sick of this modern culture of mocking those no longer here to defend themselves.

BOLLOCKS!

[Louisa]

An observation of a picture someone else posted? If anything I was mocking the picture and not the intended humour! But why let that get in the way of a good old *Bob* putting Louisa in her place session eh?

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

too late to backtrack now

consistency is important if you're planning pitching your tent on the moral high ground

[Louisa]

Consistency in what? I've explained myself, or don't you believe me?

As I said, you take things off course to make a martyr of me, and then the original point is lost in translation.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

Aaanyway, I'm off to the general issues section.

Laters!

[Louisa]

Stop rubbing it in.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

I'm so sorry Louisa.. I popped out for a walk in Dulwich Park and the Village for an hour or so

and wasn't posting ..

...so what happens ??

*bob* has to resort to insulting you in my absence.

I think he must have some sort of E-mail Alert set up when ever either of us post anything.

..or he just sits there waiting like a optimistic fisherman waiting for a bite..

Foxy.