Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Jah Lush Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Oooh, there goes one right there. Eric Clapton,

> possibly the most overrated guitarist ever.



I'm no Clapton fan, but he's a very good guitarist and a blues man. If BB King says so, that's good enough for me.



Doesn't mean he's not a dick though.

Also,on a thread called UNPOPULAR music opinion,it's a bit harsh to have a go at someone for voicing an opinion you disagree with.


I don't agree with Louisa about The Beatles, but do agree that there were probably plenty of equally talented people around at the time but The Beatles were VERY well managed which put them in a very good position.


And totally agree With Jeremy about the status of Lennon and McCartney.

Most things in music are subjective.


Whether or not the Beatles were innovative and influential isn't. It's just a fact.


If you honesty believe they weren't, then I'm afraid you're going to have to show your working. And you're going to have to put up a better fight than than Rock Around The Clock and Elvis.

In any case, the writing off (or conversely, adoring of) particular artists and their entire (and in the case of The Beatles - staggeringly varied) repertoires in one fell swoop is best left to sulking teenagers or others of immature mind.


Even Cliff managed Devil Woman.


Unfortunately, if you?ve reached later adulthood and still find yourself falling into this category - then I?m sorry to say you?re destined to be a musical bedwetter/thumbsucker until the day you die.

I thought this thread was 'unpopular' music opinion, as Otta rightly says. And who wrote the rules on the workings of what should and shouldn't be said on this thread *Bob*, if as you rightly point out musical taste is subjective? Or is this just another way of having a dig at me for the sake of it?


Louisa.

Yeah, you can't really argue with the fact they were the most influential band ever.


I guess for some people who were there at the time, it became a bit grating when theybstaryed taking themselves far too seriously though. To be honest it's probably similar to the reasons we all hate Chris Martin.

Louisa Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I thought this thread was 'unpopular' music

> opinion


That's you problem right there. Saying the Beatles weren't influential or innovative isn't 'an unpopular music opinion' - it's just plain daft.


You can hate them to death but there's no argument to be made here, except for the sake of it (i.e. maverick ninny)

As an "Uncut" and "Mojo" subscriber, I'm probably as guilty of music nostalgia as anyone, but I try to bear in mind that in the 60s in particular, pop music was regarded as utterly ephemeral (with the exception of Dylan and his 'poetic' ilk). If you'd told 60s bands and singers that people would be listening to, writing about and discussing their songs fifty years later, they'd have laughed at you.

Someone mention Bob Dylan..


.. Would that be the same Bob Dylan that possibly made more money out of his supposed connections/ shares with the

Dow Chemical Works that produced Napalm than he did from his music. ?.


We will possible never know... !


DulwichFox

*Bob* Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I thought this thread was 'unpopular' music

> > opinion

>

> That's you problem right there. Saying the Beatles

> weren't influential or innovative isn't 'an

> unpopular music opinion' - it's just plain daft.

>

> You can hate them to death but there's no argument

> to be made here, except for the sake of it (i.e.

> maverick ninny)


As I stated earlier *Bob*, even if what you say is true (eg "maverick ninny"), who are you or anyone else to state what the rules are for disliking a particular band and discarding their influence, on a thread which is specifically designed for unpopular music opinion? A bizarre response which sounds suspiciously like goading ("for the sake of it" to quote your last message). Happy new year btw :)


Louisa.

adonirum Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Jeremy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> > Elvis. Famous for singing covers of samey 12-bar-blues songs.

>

> Jeremy, think you've mixed Elvis up with Status Quo !!!!!!!!!!!!!



The first three Elvis songs which popped into my head - Hound Dog, Blue Suede Shoes, Jailhouse Rock. Now I appreciate that music is much more diverse these days, but nevertheless, to my ears they are all really the same song. And two of them had already been recorded by someone else.


At least Quo wrote SOME of their own stuff!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • While it is good that GALA have withdrawn their application for a second weekend, local people and councillors will likely have the same fight on their hands for next year's event. In reading the consultation report, I noted the Council were putting the GALA event in the same light as all the other events that use the park, like the Circus, the Fair and even the FOPR fete. ALL of those events use the common, not the park, and cause nothing like the level of noise and/or disruption of the GALA event. Even the two day Irish Festival (for those that remember that one) was never as noisy as GALA. So there is some disingenuity and hypocrisy from the Council on this, something I wll point out in my response to the report. The other point to note was that in past years branches were cut back for the fencing. Last year the council promised no trees would be cut after pushback, but they seem to now be reverting to a position of 'only in agreement with the council's arbourist'. Is this more hypocrisy from 'green' Southwark who seem to once again be ok with defacing trees for a fence that is up for just days? The people who now own GALA don't live in this area. GALA as an event began in Brockwell Park. It then lost its place there to bigger events (that pesumably could pay Lambeth Council more). One of the then company directors lived on the Rye Hill Estate next to the park and that is likely how Peckham Rye came to be the new choice for the event. That person is no longer involved. Today's GALA company is not the same as the 'We Are the Fair' company that held that first event, not the same in scope, aim or culture. And therein lies the problem. It's not a local community led enterprise, but a commercial one, underwritten by a venture capital company. The same company co-run the Rally Event each year in Southwark Park, which btw is licensed as a one day event only. That does seem to be truer to the original 'We Are the Fair' vision, but how much of that is down to GALA as opoosed to 'Bird on the Wire' (the other group organising it) is hard to say.  For local people, it's three days of not being able to open windows, As someone said above, if a resident set up a PA in their back garden and subjected the neighbours to 10 hours of hard dance music every day for three days, the Council would take action. Do not underestimate how distressing that is for many local residents, many of whom are elderly, frail, young, vulnerable. They deserve more respect than is being shown by those who think it's no big deal. And just to be clear, GALA and the council do not consider there to be a breach of db level if the level is corrected within 15 minutes of the breach. In other words, while db levels are set as part of the noise management plan, there is an acknowledgement that a breach is ok if corrected within 15 minutes. That is just not good enough. Local councillors objected to the proposed extension. 75% of those that responded to the consultation locally did not want GALA 26 to take place at all. For me personally, any goodwill that had been built up through the various consultations over recent years was erased with that application for a second weekend, and especially given that when asked if there were plans for that in post 2025 event feedback meetings (following rumours), GALA lied and said there were no plans to expand. I have come to the conclusion that all the effort to appease on some things is merely an exercise in show, to get past the council's threshold for the events licence. They couldn't give a hoot in reality for local people, and people that genuinely care about parkland, don't litter it with noisy festivals either.   
    • Aria is my go to plumber. Fixed a toilet leak for me at short notice. Reasonably priced and very professional. 
    • Anyone has a storage or a display rack for Albums LPs drop me a message thanks
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...