Council vehicles (parked illegally)

[intexasatthe moment]

Sean - these cars stay in situ for several hours ,they're not just parked for a few minutes while ticketing a car.

They have chaps on mopeds for that.

One parked in Bellenden this morning for over 3 hours .

Think they're more to do with speeding - speed camera sign put up outside bank near Somerfield ,Lordship Lane yeaterday.

[SeanMacGabhann]

still don't see a massive problem - if the problem is road safety and road space then these cars are a teeeeeeeeny tiny part of the problem and may be doing more good than harm - if you want safer roads and more room on them go to the source of the problem

[intexasatthe moment]

Not top of my list of worries - but illegal parking is dangerous and bad example.

I presume that these cars are around to reduce illegal parking and speeding.

But wouldn't they be more effective if their presence and purpose were advertised more widely.

[northlondoner]

Council hypocrites.

[ruffers]

northlondoner Wrote:

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> Council hypocrites.

Yeah, bin men spend a lot of time preaching parking according to regulations....

[northlondoner]

Ruffers blame my gf for my last post . She insisted on a hasty edit to remove "irresponsible" suggestion concerning the periscope on the illegally parked vehicle pictured above . Hope she doesn't see this.

[Gimme]

Sorry Sean but you've been guilty of bleating about other things you think are important in the past so don't slate other people who think that council hypocracy is important. Not sure what you meant about the comment re breast feeding to teenage years but it seemed a bit of an adolescent comment itself.

We had a near fatal accident in our street caused by someone parking on the corner (and a lorry swinging out to avoid it). The CEO vehicles park on that corner consistently. They need to set an example rather than doing it themselves and put people at risk 'because they can'.

The car in the photo on this thread was parked there for a good bit of the afternoon so there was no worries about missing 'guilty' cars while looking for a space. Additionally, since there are two of them in every CEO car, they could quite easily drop one guy off and then find a safe place to park.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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>

> Oh I don't know - many drivers seem to subscribe

> to "just because you can't doesn't mean you

> can't"

>

> The bleating on this thread beggars belief. Were

> y'all breast fed until teenage years or

> something?

>

> If people weren't parking illegaly then these guys

> wouldn't even exist for you to moan about. you are

> putting the horse before the cart so to speak

>

> As stated before - if these guys have to go and

> find a "proper" parking space and walk back to the

> guilty car the chances are it'll be gone. Much

> like police chasing after joy-riders don't stick

> to the legal speed limit because... come on you

> can do this... because...

>

> If the roads are dangerous places it isn't because

> of these wardens

[Huguenot]

If there aren't GPS systems in council controlled vehicles, there should be.

The right for councils to park illegally is understandable, but shouldn't also cover parking unsafely.

[TheAllSeeingEye]

The red council Smart car that does the rounds with the periscope on it is absoutely there for catching people speeding. I have stopped and watched them sitting inside the car messing aorund on their laptop and getting peoples number plates. This is confirmed by the new camera sign outside Somerfield, and the camera sign on the side of their vehicle.

Stopping speeding is supposedly to increase safety and NOT to raise money. This is why speed cameras now get painted yellow so they are more visible. If its all about safety then why are they parking illegally at a junction for over three hours causing more danger as people pulling out from the junction have their view obscured ??

If you park illegally you deserve a ticket. Same applies if you speed. But there are ways and means of catching people without adding to the problem themselves.

[SeanMacGabhann]

interested to know what the bleating was about and if it is really comparable

For sure if they are parking there needlessly just because they can then yeah that's not great but it doesn't really warrant the multiple threads that it seems to. Yes the council should set a good example - we agree on that - but all teh grumbling about councils, and money-making and so on ignores the root cause. And no-one seems to want to talk about that, far happier to complain endlessly about the council, which is just externalising the problem

[Gimme]

Didn't take that long to find ;-)

"oh dear god - "chemists" and "newsagents" and their endless cross-selling is a good one. No Mr WH Smith not only did I not want half a kilo of chocolate with my paper, but I don't want you slipping fekkin flyers for Dominoes and god knows what else in there either - stop it!!! "

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> interested to know what the bleating was about and

> if it is really comparable

>

[SeanMacGabhann]

Exactly my point - in what thread did you find that quote? ah yes..."Tiny little things that cause you Irrational Rage"

Which is where it belongs

[Gimme]

On a more serious note...

Reply just received from the council (on a Sunday morning too! wow) re their vehicle parked on the yellow lines opposite ESPH. Even the council officials don't like what their contractors are doing....

"I will see to it that the matter is raised again with our enforcement

contractor.

In regards of condoning it, the answer is no I don't, and I expect

operatives to park in locations which are safe and not blocking the

footway. On occasions they will park on single/double yellow lines to

carry out their duties.

Regards

Nicky Costin

Road Network, Parking and Marina

Business Manager"

So the answer is... every time you see one of the council vehicles parked dangerously, send a photo to Mr Costin.

Presumably the contractors will get the message eventually.

[kford]

Sean: "If the roads are dangerous places it isn't because of these wardens"

It is when they obstruct the mouth of a junction. It's an endorsable offence, like parking on the brow of a hill, or on zig-zags.

Sean, this is not just about flaunting parking regs to ticket motorists, this is about dangerous parking. If a Saturday shopper parked where this car was parked and a fatal accident occured, you'd be one of the first in line calling for action.

Parking in a loading bay/on a single yellow/permit zone to nab illegal parkers - cheeky, at worst hypocritical, but not the end of the world.

Parking in a position which endangers other road users - illegal and dangerous.

They aren't used for speeding BTW, it's purely parking enforcement. So any 'safety' argument is blown out the window, unless they're able to nab themselves.

Plus, they leave the engine running to power their equipment. Aside from the environmental aspect, that's an offence too.