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Grok

Grok

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Thats kids stuff though. Once it gets serious/professional its gender separation and men first/better.

The only example of a sport played by women that is better to watch and more enjoyable than the mens version is topless darts.


Blah Blah Wrote:

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> You assume that all sports were originally played

> by men before women. There is no evidence of that.

> I would assume that in their earliest forms, most

> sports were played by kids of both genders playing

> together, and the same may have been true for

> adults as well. It is only patriarchy that has

> developed this false history of sport being for

> men first.

Seabag

Seabag

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Grok Wrote:

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> Thats kids stuff though. Once it gets

> serious/professional its gender separation and men

> first/better.

> The only example of a sport played by women that

> is better to watch and more enjoyable than the

> mens version is topless darts.

>

> Blah Blah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > You assume that all sports were originally

> played

> > by men before women. There is no evidence of

> that.

> > I would assume that in their earliest forms,

> most

> > sports were played by kids of both genders

> playing

> > together, and the same may have been true for

> > adults as well. It is only patriarchy that has

> > developed this false history of sport being for

> > men first.



Is there a topless men's darts?


I'm not sure there is, so how can women be better at it when there's not a men's game to compare it to?


Or do you mean it's just more fun to look at women's tits as they 'play' darts


Not really a sport tho is it Grok, more of a pastime for you

Blah Blah

Blah Blah

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So what about sports like curling? Or skiing? Or figure skating? Or sailing? There are plenty of sports that have no discernable difference between men and women. And actually, very few sporting events are televised anyway, even at the top level. Most sport needs massive sponsorship to even exist.
Seabag

Seabag

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Grok Wrote:

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> Traditional pastime for men in lewes apparently -

> topless mens darts.



That maybe, but as I don't actually live in Lewes, your guess is as good as mine


Mind you, you never know what goes in in such places


Maybe you're confusing Topless Darts for topless and dressed as a Zulu on bonfire nite

maxxi

maxxi

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Seabag Wrote:

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I don't actually live in Lewes... you never know what goes in in such

> places


> Maybe you're confusing Topless Darts for topless

> and dressed as a Zulu on bonfire nite



Or as it's known there - Thursday.

Seabag

Seabag

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maxxi Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> I don't actually live in Lewes... you never know

> what goes in in such

> > places

>

> > Maybe you're confusing Topless Darts for

> topless

> > and dressed as a Zulu on bonfire nite

>

>

> Or as it's known there - Thursday.



Too true maxxi, since those who ventured down that way have all but disappeared, I'd say Zulu nite is just one of many 'nites' in Lewes


What nite is curry nite?

titch juicy

titch juicy

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Blah Blah Wrote:

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> So what about sports like curling? Or skiing? Or

> figure skating? Or sailing? There are plenty of

> sports that have no discernable difference between

> men and women. And actually, very few sporting

> events are televised anyway, even at the top

> level. Most sport needs massive sponsorship to

> even exist.


I get your point- but skiing and sailing? Both rely on strength/power/pace etc.

Blah Blah

Blah Blah

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The block and tackle takes all the strain in sailing and modern racing yachts use winches and rachetts because sails have to be trimmed quickly. And women and men compete against each other in many sailing events. Equestrian is another one. Women don't seem to have any less of a problem sending a horse over huge fences than men do they.
Loz

Loz

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titch juicy Wrote:

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> I get your point- but skiing and sailing? Both rely on strength/power/pace etc.


For downhill skiing, I can't see women competing with men. Not so much brute strength, but body mass, height and (as a mixture of those) ski length are very important.


But I'm kind of surprised that men are so much more advanced in ski and snowboard halfpipe, slopestyle, etc, given how much more women twist and turn in gymnastics.

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Blah Blah

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Female downhill skiers tend to be very tall though. I don't know the physics of it all but all things being equal there has to be more to it, otherwise every skier would achieve the same speed.


Om half pipe etc, I wonder if it's just a case of less girls snowboarding. How many girls skateboard for example?

Loz

Loz

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Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Female downhill skiers tend to be very tall though. I don't know the physics of it all but all

> things being equal there has to be more to it, otherwise every skier would achieve the same speed.


Well, yes, but it's not a straight-line course. Like F1 it's how you take the turn, line of entry, etc. Competitions are often decided by fractions of a second. And height is important to help you turn, like any lever/fulcrum.


But for straight line speed, I can always pass the missus as I have longer skis and more body weight.


> Om half pipe etc, I wonder if it's just a case of less girls snowboarding.


I think that is a lot of it. It just surprises me that women are so far behind men in this discipline, though they are narrowing the difference a little of late.

Seabag

Seabag

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This is a serious question


Do women still compete 'side saddle' at events


I know the Queen used to ride side sadle (why can't I ever say that without laughing like I'm at school still)


Does it still go on, do men have a go at this style


(blimey all sorts of fireworks are going off in my head)

LadyNorwood

LadyNorwood

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Dressage maybe?


Seabag Wrote:

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> This is a serious question

>

> Do women still compete 'side saddle' at events

>

> I know the Queen used to ride side sadle (why

> can't I ever say that without laughing like I'm at

> school still)

>

> Does it still go on, do men have a go at this

> style

>

> (blimey all sorts of fireworks are going off in my

> head)

Blah Blah

Blah Blah

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There is a school that still teaches side saddle for 'ladies'. I grew up with horses but I can't recall ever seeing anyone compete riding so. As a mount it's as steady as riding cross saddle but I can't see it being more comfortable. A rider needs to be able rise and I would imagine side saddle being much harder work, especially at a trot.


My wife beats me every time being a nordic giant Loz. She was born wearing skis I think and gets right down into a fetal position when hurtling down the piste. As for me, my 6 ft plus doesn't do crounching and wind resistance alone keeps me in my place. I'm not a great skier - a bit of a scaredy cat really :D

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