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messageHave some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Lollipop April 03, 05:22PM

Three episodes in the past few days. At the junction of Forest Hill Road and Colyton Road, I stopped at the red light. The car behind me overtook me and went through - obviously thinking that there was no traffic coming the other way, so why not?

Turning onto Barry Road I came face to face with a car coming at speed on the wrong side of the road - overtaking someone who was driving more sensibly. He just managed to cut back into his lane without hitting me.

Finally, someone refused to give way on the roundabout where I had right of way and drove straight at me....

I only drive in London locally and have never seen the need for a dashcam but I might be looking for one soon!

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by tash b April 03, 05:51PM

Funny you post this lollipop the lights at dog kennel hill only this morning I watched a car over take another and go straight through red lights, I always say theres a handful of stupid people that shouldn’t be allowed on our roads. 😡



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was april 03, 05:52pm by tash b.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Sally Eva April 03, 05:57PM

The reduction in traffic congestion (caused by CV lockdown and the recession)is causing increased speed (IMO).

Do people think it has got worse since the lockdown? In which case could add stress as a cause?

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by first mate April 03, 06:27PM

Grrr, what are people doing out in their cars? You’d think and hope that key workers driving to and from work would be careful so can only assume these are non- essential journeys by irresponsible opportunists.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by sjsl April 03, 07:41PM

Agree, I noticed several cars today were seriously breaking the speed limit... not helpful behaviour, especially as there seem to be more novice cyclists out and about as well.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by ED Bird April 03, 08:44PM

Lollipop Wrote:
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> I only drive in London locally and have never seen
> the need for a dashcam but I might be looking for
> one soon!

Now would be the perfect time to get yourself a dashcam & take the dangerous drivers off our streets big grin
They're going to stand out more than ever during this lockdown.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by doody April 03, 10:08PM

Ive noticed a lot of speeding recently, maybe because roads are less congested and encourage the dangerous drivers. Last night at the crossroads junction of the Rye, going towards Forest hill, I made the mistake of allowing to go first the bus parallel to me. You know, essential services, transporting essential workers, and all that. Judging by the apoplectic reaction and threatening gesticulations of the driver behind me, I was clearly wrong to be considerate. Stress? Yeah, we're all stressed. Just have a thought for those who are actually trying to carry on , at risk to themselves, to keep things going. That includes bus drivers.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by KidKruger April 03, 10:17PM

10pm last night white car going through shops on LL, at I'd say 50-55mph.
Absolutely insane. fatality waiting to happen if someone is crossing road or turning out onto LL.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by womanofdulwich April 03, 10:39PM

You can still smell the skunk coming out of some drivers windows.be careful out there.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by malumbu April 04, 12:14AM

Not a lot will be done in the current situation but please don't forget this when things are 'back to normal'. Political parties not prepared to take on poor driving, and local authorities not joined up, not adequately funded or just not bothered.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by ed26 April 04, 12:31AM

Two times in the past week around Oxenford, Bellenden, Copleston area I've come bonnet to bonnet with cars belting down the middle of the road. Young, single drivers both times. Today's driver refused to pull into the big parking space on his left.

Also there's been an increase in drivers using the right-turn box from East Dulwich Road into Adys Road for overtaking or driving through the red lights.

On the other hand, I saw two people walk out in front of cars without looking on Lordship Lane today.

Very little we can do at the moment but the quiet streets mean that some drivers are driving like maniacs and some pedestrians risk walking out in front of them.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by dimples April 04, 01:31AM

Happened to me twice today too .
Driving down lordship lane and a car on the other side of the road , sped up the hill by Goodrich road and over took a bus nearly hitting me as he was on the wrong side of the road . Second one was on the way back on woodvale a complete wide boy in his car with a ridiculously over the top engine for the car tailgated me till I had to pull in for safety reasons and he then sped off at a ridiculous speed up to the traffic lights at forest hill road , only the lights were at red so he had to stop and I pulled up along the side of him in the end . What a jerk

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by KidKruger April 04, 12:45PM

The sad thing is, accidents will inevitably happen.
Because they're at speed there may be harsh injury or worse and the heath services will be called-out
HELLO ? we've a major issue on at the moment which is centred around hospitals and the health services.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by seenbeen April 04, 11:47PM

KidKruger Wrote:
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> The sad thing is, accidents will inevitably
> happen.
> Because they're at speed there may be harsh injury
> or worse and the heath services will be
> called-out
> HELLO ? we've a major issue on at the moment which
> is centred around hospitals and the health
> services.

Yes- I don't remember it being made clear that the reason for NOT driving all over the place is to avoid accidents and thereby putting even more pressure on the NHS...but then many people have to have everything spelled out to them. And if people were not driving around the back streets there would be space for us to walk.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by bels123 May 18, 12:22PM

Extreme speeding is unfortunately on the increase across London [www.standard.co.uk]

Worrying trend

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by northernmonkey May 18, 12:23PM

Totally agree that this is a concern - we've seen much more crazy driving going on - its as though the wide open streets are a target for such drivers - rather than respite from the norm!

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by KidKruger May 18, 01:32PM

you don't need the paper to appreciate the level of speeding, just hang out a while when it's dark on goose green and you'll see plenty of fast lane lemons exceeding 50mph. In fact, by bet is some of these guys are only out for the burn-up on deserted streets.
A bad accident will happen, how could it not, these guys are often going too fast to react to an issue arising.


bels123 Wrote:
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> Extreme speeding is unfortunately on the increase
> across London
> [www.standard.co.uk]
> eding-metropolitan-police-bank-holiday-a4434581.ht
> ml
>
> Worrying trend

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Sue May 18, 01:54PM

bels123 Wrote:
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> Extreme speeding is unfortunately on the increase
> across London
> [www.standard.co.uk]
> eding-metropolitan-police-bank-holiday-a4434581.ht
> ml
>
> Worrying trend


163 mph 😮

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by siousxiesue May 18, 01:54PM

I'm not a driver, but are there not cameras all over for this type of idiocy?

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Monkey May 18, 02:33PM

I’ve witnessed some really bad, very fast driving as well. This is really concerning.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by tiddles May 18, 04:25PM

There are very few cameras to catch dangerous driver’s - the odd speed one but not enough to stop the idiots

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by woodland May 18, 04:37PM

dimples Wrote:
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> Happened to me twice today too .
> Driving down lordship lane and a car on the other
> side of the road , sped up the hill by Goodrich
> road and over took a bus nearly hitting me as he
> was on the wrong side of the road . Second one was
> on the way back on woodvale a complete wide boy in
> his car with a ridiculously over the top engine
> for the car tailgated me till I had to pull in for
> safety reasons and he then sped off at a
> ridiculous speed up to the traffic lights at
> forest hill road , only the lights were at red so
> he had to stop and I pulled up along the side of
> him in the end . What a jerk

We live on Wood vale and this happens a lot. I have noticed it more during lockdown, but that could be because I am at home more in the day, it may happen a lot at other times. I have seen people overtake and drive on the wrong side of the road at speed at least 6 times in the last 4 weeks.

Does anyone know what we can do to try to stop this happening? As others have said it wouldn't take much for someone to be crossing the road perfectly legitimately and be hit.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by KidKruger May 18, 04:54PM

"Does anyone know what we can do to try to stop this happening?"

We are powerless.
reduced policing and empty streets means a virtual green light for dangerous speed freaks.
You could try doing something yourself - at the risk of getting your face filled-in by a disgruntled driver.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by AylwardS May 18, 04:59PM

Not sure what priority it will take at the moment, though if the same vehicle or location gets multiple reports that’s probably picked up by the computer and routes to KCH might be on a “watchlist”, but you can report online to the Met Police [www.met.police.uk]

The AA recommend having a note of
* The vehicle's registration
* The vehicle's colour, make and model
* The time and place where the incident happened
* Any other details, such as a description of the driver

The Met Police’s website asks for dashcam footage 2 minutes either side of the incident.

If you see something worrying and have time to report it then it can’t hurt and might take a dangerous driver off the roads.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by malumbu May 18, 08:58PM

Most drivers (on the road) not some drivers. Bring in average speed cameras. Change the culture. Sorry I am getting repetitive.

PS as a younger driver and motorcyclist had my fair share of speeding fines - most on dual carriageways not in urban areas so like a reformed alcoholic I am obsessive. But like drink driving I hope that future generations have different attitudes to previous ones on this.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Blah Blah May 18, 09:04PM

I have seen quite a few cars deliberately go through red lights lately, and the usual run of cyclists doing the same. I even had one car pull out of a stop line right in front of me, with no excuse for not having seen me. He actually continued moving as I was passing in front of his bonnet! My opinion is that the same people who think lock down rules don't apply to them, are the same people who think rules of the road don't apply to them. It's a attitude problem.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by first mate May 18, 10:35PM

Some of the driving I have witnessed has been really scary. Don’t know what planet these people are on but unbelievably selfish and careless of others.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by Zig-Zag May 18, 11:09PM

I was nearly hit early this evening. I was crossing the road on foot and a lunatic came squealing round the bend at a terrific speed and slammed his brakes on when he saw me, just in time. It was a very close shave.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by rahrahrah May 19, 11:51AM

Yup, I've seen some outrageous driving, including not one, but two cars going straight through a zebra crossing that i was waiting at with my kids. They didn't even slow down.

messageRe: Have some drivers forgotten safety?
Posted by malumbu May 19, 12:03PM

Some one drive and my son and I near Greenwich the other day accelerating over 60mph as we were cycling across towards the cycle Route going to Deptford. They put their foot down and turned towards us. Obviously it was a bit of excitement for them. I've never quite experienced that and I have seen huge amounts of crazy driving. On Wood Vale and the like it is usually cars on the wrong side of the road overtaking buses and the like. I am wholly objective, it has all been a green light to drivers like this.

I almost got up to 130mph on an empty motorway on a Kawasaki 1100 once, top speed was 135 mph but it stated to weave. Note to younger self - that is what proper race tracks are for. Never drove or rode like an asss in urban areas. And in those days you did get caught.

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