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Sad news that the Wrestler Mick McManus has died I was one of his regular supporters, I remember that the local wrestlers would all share the same battered van to go to the more distant venues. Mick McManus used to go into a house opposite the Emergency doors of the Baths in Crystal Palace Road. Wrestling Arena. Dulwich Baths was the venue for the very well attended Bouts. The Pool was covered with board sections suspended above to water, a Ring put up, rows of single folding seats to all four sides of the Ring. To sit too close or at ringside had it faults the occasional wrestler landed on the spectator breaking the chair. It was not uncommon to see a ringside aged spectator get up and poke the still fighting wrestler hanging from the ring with her walking stick. There were our local lads the Law Brothers that was Len Britain & The Collage Boy, Mick McManus , Jackie Pallo. The venue was varied sometime we had to go to Camberwell Baths or Manor Place Baths. He used to tease Jacki Pallo to make him annoyed and respond. Just imagine the revenue that this would raise if once again used

My first employer in 1945 Builders Greenaway & son's Offices were here at 265 Lordship Lane, but he lived in Shortlands near Bromley. I think he would be more than happy to demolish it free of charge as it is now.

Lots more on the site. Wonder who will turn up from all that time ago.

I have posted on there but it does not stay.

Sorry due to my long standing attendance that has been arranged at the Cavalry Parade in Hyde in Park this Sunday is my top priority. Its a long day starting at being there from 9am, ready for the March Past, then the Service at the Bandstand. The luncheon is held at 1pm in a Hotel In Piccadilly, till late afternoon, then we go to the Hyde Park Barracks as guests of the Regiment. We don't normally leave until midnight. We are able to see the Museum, horses and stables, it must have been strange for very one of the serving soldiers had been dismounted all day. After my first service some sixty four years ago not many of my Old Comrades are still living, those who are not able to attend. So I am sure that this is my priority. I might get some pictures.

The placing of paint spray Graffiti or Pictures. My objection of placing any of these items should be controlled by Planning Dept of the Southwark Borough Council, as any other item that can be seen by the public should have to pass the Planning Control. My objection is to the control of produced pictures is not to the main public standard is far below a certain quality, are for the beholder to give their own findings and say if they are in favour or not, to display these Willy Nilly where they want to put them. Can we consider where these will start to become visible, on the corner of your own Street or Lane, if acceptable to you they might not be to the future residents when they come to live here, to see faded and flaking drawings deteriorating over the years, as we can see in Ireland. It could be the case that those approached to have a painting on a wall might not be the owner, just a short term Tenant or a passing Publican, or use the premises on short term. Looking at the Costs of painting, their picture the cost of hiring the lifting Cherry Picker, the Purchase of hundreds of spray paint cans to produce the finished item. Surly the painter could afford to buy his own background to paint on. Once a picture is painted it will not be altered to satisfy any residents wishes. To remove these pictures would never be financed by the painter, it would be to the cost of the Occupant at that time. If a case was brought to court the painter might be forced to remove it, supervised by an Official, I have no doubt that he would not supply the materials or lift hire, it is not always realised that a Pressure washer will penetrate a wall leaving it porous to the future rain water penetration. If this is removed as Graffiti by the Southwark Borough Council, the men?s time and use of Plant will have to be reclaimed. So you will be in the situation of paying for this as its cost is added to your Rates. I wonder how long it will be before a grieving relative calling at their loved ones grave see a picture put on the Headstone by this painter. I would think that any thoughts on this subject could be posted here for all to read and show if they would like this to continue, to support the painting or force the Southwark Borough Council to act, on behalf of a list of residents. One person has little chance of securing a successful conclusion. Elect your spokes person and Vote.

I wonder would the so called artist dare paint on the house wall that Vincent Van Gough lived? As it is claimed that it was inspired by Vincent Van Gough. A vote in favour is only counted by those attending, but those who do not vote are the majority.

Southwark Borough Council A Street Name Plate with a CUL De Sac Sign included is a Trafic Sign. Street name plates We are responsible for ensuring that street name plates are provided for each road in Southwark and that they are fitted in suitable positions. We are also responsible for the repair and maintenance of street name plates if they're damaged. In the case of new development however, the developer is responsible for the erection of name plates to the council's specification. You can report a problem with a street name plate by contacting us or by completing the online street furniture problem report form from Southwark Borough Council. It might be of interest to notify all the obliterated Name plates to the Council. I for one do not appreciate that these paintings are forced on me I have no liking for a mess show at places dictated by the painter, and the content is not to my taste, it looks a bit vain to show ones self in it. It will not be hard to trace the painter if not known, as it is on hire the phone number is only of the group hire, it can be traced by its Vehicle Registration Number. Do the supporters of these so called Art Works realise that the paint will peel after a while and it will be an eye sore, have the owners of the premises thought that in time they will be brought to make good the wall to an acceptable condition. It will be interesting when convicted of Public Transport Signs damage, that the culpret is sent to serve time in a Prison with high walls that he might find time to paint.

Did he have any thought about blanking out the Road Name, and popossibly leaving an Ambulance driver unable to find that person needing emergency treatment? Lets hope he does not fall off of the Cherry Picker he is using. If he did have permission to paint this then who is to blame for this removal of a Trafic Sign. Ask Southwark Council.

This rare picture shows the tracks being cleared of snow on the down track and holding back the number 58 to the bottom of the hill. The sheild to the front stopped the snow being deposited on the other track, it dispersed it to the curb side. Second picture is of the Bank Run Tram carrying all those big Penny's to be banked, it passed our home on Lordship Lane during the night. No Flats On Dog Kennel Hill.

If you are trying to find lost relatives go to Fraser & Fraser 39 Hatton Garden.

They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa from: Dr. Demento's Delights Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698 Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to leave because I'd go berserk?? Well... You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see I've gone completely out of my mind.. And.. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!! They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!! You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT??? I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And.. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa, They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! I cooked your food, I cleaned your house, and this is how you pay me back for all my kind unselfish loving deeds.. Huh?? Well you just wait, they'll find you yet and when they do they'll put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!!! And... They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa. They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take me away, ha-haa!!! To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time... (fade out) Hey, buddy! Yes officer.. You a head? No, but I'm catching up, ha ha ha.... original recording by Napoleon XIV

1877 - Emmanuel Congregational Church opened on Barry Road. Near The East Dulwich Cross roads Barry Road & with Etherow Street.

Heber Road School has been our family local school, seven of us children attended from 1926 to 1951. My own started in 1936 as an infant, we did have a short sleep on the floor in the main hall spaced in rows with just a cover over us, I remember the low toilets and tiny chairs and tables, and the rows of hooks to hang up our coats. The science block building reminds me at a later date being taken to the top floor and the teacher told us we were going to learn about gravity we all looked out of the windows to see a feather and a ball dropped down, we learned that a solid item fell quicker than a light item, he said that if one of you fall out you will be classed as a solid item. That science block was built on brick piers that were bricked in during the war for us as to use as Air Raid Shelters. When the wall in Heber Road had a gateway built in it for the Taxi converted into a Fire Engine to stay in the playground the Firemen were housed in the upper rooms, after a fire the wet hoses were laid out in lines to dry, there were three Emergency brick Water tanks, on Bomb sites one just at the end of Jennings Road in Crystal Palace Road, one at the end of Milo Road in Beauval Road, and one behind my home in Landcroft Road, between Crystal Palace Road and Thompson Road. I remember the black German plane with white crosses on it shooting at us, I was in Jennings Road just outside the School Keeper Lodge, I was walking to school, I have a feeling it was after dinner. My time at school was a pleasant time although most of it was during the War, and teachers were called up for Service, and some of the children were evacuated, but most returned within a few weeks, so the classes were condensed to take in children of a more larger age group, we played cards with the teacher to pass the time in the Shelter, it was very dim so we could not have classes, one teacher had been in the army but was wounded, so became our teacher he taught us how to compile Ciphers a kind of code, I was quite good at it, you had to find a substitute for each letter the clues were that you found the five vowels ( the most used letters and the double used letters I/E oo ee ll ss mm nn ) , I had fun doing this, although my writing has never been very good, and was a mess using those wooden pens with a steel nib point that you dipped in the ink well at the top of the desk. There was a brick built Air Raid in Jennings Road with a concrete flat roof built on an open plot a few doors from the school, I never found out why as all the houses had Anderson Shelters or in door Morrison Shelters. I remember the houses in Rodwell Road most of my school chums lived in the houses between Syrena and Crystal Palace Road some had steps leading up. The other end was posh. I remember Freddy Stains he would be 81 now if he is still about. Dons Sweet shop there was a step down as you went in always full of kids who I don't think had much money to spend or there was much to buy as sweets were rationed and not many available, we bought Zubes a kind of cough drop, or Galloway's Cough. Mixture because it was sweet, or Ice lolly on a stick for a penny coloured but no taste, I think Don made them. Once the Water Board dug up the road and laid big Pipes about fifteen feet down, they might have been five feet inside, of course after school we ventured into the end but it was very dark and we got as far as the bend into Crystal Palace road and came back. There was the night Watchman. to dodge. He cleaned the paraffin lamps and filled them and trimmed the wick and stood them along the open trench that continued along Heber Road to Lordship Lane under the pavement out side the Dentist on the corner then crossed to Townley Road. Here on the corner was the building we got our Gas Masks I got a Mickey Mouse Type with a nose, my twin brother and sister got ones that they had to be laid inside and laced in then a pump had to be used all the time they were in there, Mum did not like to see the inside get misted up and could not see the babies. They were seven years younger than me so mum said I must put one of the babies in as she could not do two in an emergency then make sure I pumped al the time. I remember the Park Keepers one was my mates mum Mrs Sissens lived in Landcroft Road, they called her Sis. We all walked in file in pairs to the Dulwich Park to play our favourite game of Gusto with a foot ball but you used it as a hand ball, lots of rushing about and grazes and bumps we loved it. We were dismissed after in the park to make our own way home. I remember the Shows put on by Armature Actors in the Park on a stage built of Steel scaffolding tubes and Boards with a canopy hanging in the front and a curtain for the actors to change at the back. A small van with a Trumpet loudspeaker on its roof alongside the railings that held the audience who had pad a few pence to sit inside on a folding park seat that its legs soon sank into the grass and you fell off. There were more standing outside than those who paid to go in. Some of the singers got the Raspberry and soon got off stage, strange now to think that Anne Shelton lived a few hundred feet from the stage in Court Lane, singing for the Forces, we used to scrump her apples from her back garden backing onto the park. Anybody recognise themselves? Att. Picture about 1944 Class picture John Morgan Pictured of Good rich Road.

? Travis? or is it Siv Art. Uses Americanisms but also uses old English measurements ? FEET? . So must be of the pre decimal era. Does indicate that he is heading back to Heber Road School? Further education Evening Classes? ? They were still arguing a mile down the road, where they reached the turnoff that went north to Heber? .

Chelsea Hospital 2002 Now is the time that the Chelsea Pensioners become more in the eye of the public. Does the general public know what they are or what they do now? You will see them at the Cenotaph, and Marching down the stairs of the Royal Albert Hall. The scarlet Uniform is only worn on Parades whilst within the Hospital or outside the Hospital. Their normal dress is more informal Blue with cap inside the boundaries of the Hospital. I have over the years become familiar with many of the Pensioners, I have also through attending so many parades been offered to attend many more, so many that I cant go to them all. There are frequent invitations to take part in Parades with the Royal Family present, and be seated on a close table at the Luncheon. I had thought that as I was there, I would when I got home write a short report of the proceedings and send to those that could not be there I have done this and sent them to old comrades of my own Regiment, these seem to be well received, but now those men have nearly all passed to the Green fields so I do not do it now. These might be of interest to members. This is one of my reports; Chelsea Founders Day 7th June 2002 The only official Parade of the In-Pensioners of The Royal Hospital Chelsea, is to commemorate the founding of the Royal Hospital, by King Charles 11. This year the salute was taken by His Royal Highness Prince Michael. It had been raining , as we took our seats in the raised stands the seat had an inch of rainwater in the cupped seat, as it was fixed down the water had to be removed by hand, the rain stopped for the ceremony, the Trumpeters came out onto the balcony, six each side, one later collapsed and was taken away, the Band played the Pensioners came on Parade waiting for the Royal Party, unfortunately one of these also became unwell and was wheeled off in a wheelchair. Prince Michael arrived onto the Parade Ground, having called into the Infirmary to see the less able Pensioners, The Fanfare by the Trumpeters, and the inspection of the Pensioners formed up in four Companies in the Figure Court, pausing to speak to those sitting behind who were unable to stand for the Parade, I was particularly pleased that he spent some time talking to my Ex Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant Major, Tom Parnell, who we had come to see. I think that the most moving part of the Parade is the very slow March to the tune of "The Old Brigade" this brings a standing ovation from the assembly, it never ceases to bring a lump to my throat, it is now that an unusual salute is given by the left hand as they counter march past the saluting base, as they pass the Golden band on the pocket flap of their scarlet coat denoting that this person holds a post of responsibility within the Hospital. Prince Michael, gave a well received speech, then unveiled the Statue of Charles the 11, that had been renovated and painted a brilliant gold, by the sculptor Andy Mitchell. Prince Michael left the Parade. The Pensioners were dismissed. Now the time to meet your pensioner, and of course all those you have got to know while attending other Parades, get your Packed Lunch , Hot Dog , or Hamburger, now the beer tent, find enough seats in one of the Marquee's and settle to catch up on all that has passed since you last met, the band plays all the favourite Military Music. My own observations are toward two men in Blazers who I must say were wearing the biggest display of Medals I have ever seen, on both sides, not just Medals but Badges of anything they had ever belonged to, some I suspect might bare a simulararity to the yearly clasp from Butlins from 1950 to 1972, I doubt that should they have been able to obtain a replica of Kenny Everett's four foot wide jacket there would have been room to put on the Golly Badge, these exhibitionists being only visitors did not , I am glad to say get any attention from the ex servicemen there, as they retreated to a empty table and remained alone, looking at a very very old Pensioner standing in the heavy rain, who it turned out had come from the infirmary wearing his pyjama trousers six inches short , in his scarlet coat and Blue Cap, he was waiting for his visitors (Who would never come) as he had probably outlived them, constantly smiled as he got soaked, he gave a glance in my direction the non seeing glance I had seen by my own brother with Dementia, this man is more important to me than a hundred exhibitionists! The man was taken into the Marquee by some of the ladies on an other table and made a welcome to him and posed with him for a photo, I think it made his day. The rain fell heavy keeping the visitors inside, now with a disco to replace the band, a visit to the Museum is a must, funny how many men bought the red apron with the Pensioners on it, I suspect they will be wearing it themselves, lots of god souvenirs, and books, and see a grand model of the Royal Hospital, when it was built in 1692. The Chapel is also an interesting building, and the Dining Hall, and the Pensioners rooms these are called Berths, and what is The Chelsea Chest ? This is their stomach best when filled! Reluctantly we had to leave, just then someone with a portable radio shouted "We have won " this was the Football Match against Argentina, perhaps I might be exaggerating when I say men jumped to their feet who had not stood for years and cheered, well it seemed to me anyway, what a high note to leave our friends, "See you next year" God Willing. I do hope our visit has given some pleasure to Our Old Comrades, I am looking forward to next year already. ?Computedshorty?

Royal Hospital Chelsea. I have over the years been able to be present at the Founder?s Day , invited by my former Old Comrades who were In Pensioners. I have also been several times in the Guard of Honour at the Streatham Vale Crematorium. My memory is that we formed at the Royal Hospital, and most went in the hired coach, to the Crematorium, being standing outside the doors of the Crematorium, the mourners had entered the Crematorium , we waited for the coffin to be carried between us. To my dismay there was no hearse, the side of the coach was opened for the coffin to be taken out of the luggage compartment, the Pole Bearers placed our Regimental Standard upon the coffin and the deceased Tricorn Hat a Wreath and medals. Later we returned to the Royal Hospital for the Wake in the Pensioners Bar. To my knowledge there ashes were disposed of by the relatives. I am aware that Margaret Thatcher was always in the audience as the picture shows her sitting in the front row, she also attended the Sunday Service in the Hospital Chapel, the new Infirmary bears her name. I wonder will her coffin arrive by coach?

Hi konrad. A nice quiet place now the trams have gone, and the bombs stopped dropping, you might even get to visit the mosque.

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Friern Road Prefabs. My first job 1945. The two story building seen in the distance was our temporary Carpenters shop, it was number 314 Friern Road. The front door was to the left, our workshop in the large front room, up stairs was a passage between the front bedroom and the back bedroom leading to the Chauffer's flat above the garage, there was a trapdoor leading down to the garage below. We patched up the repairable houses in Friern Road, Etherow Street, Barry Road, and the back of those in Upland Road. Then we put up Prefabs that came in kit sections on Railway trailers pulled by the three wheel mechanical horse. I think your picture might be one of these.

Yes this is my view. ? Someone might touch, move and inspire, or even entertain, without winning any medals for their English.? If you can hold the attention of members long enough to read the whole message, and hopefully get a good response, I think that readers of my posts would forgive any lapse of spelling or grammar that I might make.

Is it just me? I have a telephone supplied by B.T. it has been from them since 1976, I am still charged for the telephone they sent, with just numbers on it. The local number was just 137. I pay the bill each quarter by phone, I am charged a process fee of ?6.00, I am now informed that I will have to pay a further ?1.50. for a quarterly bill that will be sent to me for something I do not want. These will add up to ?36.00. This I think is not acceptable as my phone calls never cost more than ?12. 00 a quarter. Is this the only Company that charges to process a bill? I have thoughts of cancelling from B.T. But I have a large Website for my old Regimental Old Comrades, although getting less participants since the sixty four years I joined the Regiment, these would no longer be in contact as I would have to inform them of my change. I am offered that I could pay by Direct Debit, but my only income is the state pension and there would not be sufficient funds to pay so I would be in the red, I do not want to do that. I did have a little savings but that went on my wife?s & my own prearranged Funerals. Has anyone any thoughts?

A Gross of women? Cant handle that many. Is that twelve or a hundred and forty four? Dont think it is a hundred and forty four cant get that many on the bus. Someone is taking the Mickey.

A memory that stuck in my mind. The time was August nineteen forty, is a memory that is mine, a long time to have this retained in my head, as I was only nine. The London Blitz had started, we still had to attend our school, some children got evacuated from London for safety, but not all. Heber Road School was for me and six siblings, our local one, little did we know then some the education that was to come. The three story building alongside the back garden brick walls, of houses backing on to Crystal Palace Road, I can still recall. A building built on brick piers, the space below was our rain cover, the space between the piers got bricked in to make, we discover. Made into the School Air Raid Shelter, where we had to spend time, the door opening too narrow for desks, but the benches fitted fine. Teacher distracted our attention by letting us play games of cards, make it interesting, placed a bet of marbles, ball of string by the yard. Comics of more valued staked, half a pencil a well worn rubber, one kid staked his lead toy soldier, all found one thing or another. German Dornier Bombers dropped their bombs, one was very near, in Chrystal Palace Road, facing the end of Jennings Road we fear. That bomb alone if landed closer than the two hundred yards away, a lot of mothers think twice to send to school, so kept home to stay. That bomb site when cleared of debris, saved the bricks to build, a large brick emergency water Tank with a high wall to shield. This proved to be very handy for the Fire crews use water stored there, pass there now some years later, there is four new houses built share. Men came one day to make a hole in the high playground brick wall, a pair of wooden gates soon filled that gap, it took a time to install. Then a London Taxi converted to a Fire Engine came here to stay firemen were billeted in rooms above our shelter, we had to keep away. The small incendiary bombs that were dropped at night, to burn, one landed on our front window bay window roof, gave me a turn. It landed just above my head while sleeping in my bed, was alight, dad dislodged it with a long bamboo pole, I wont forget that night.