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Members of this Forum and local men were involved in the Korean War. Just a short Memory of those. Sixty years ago the war in Korea ceased. Not a war that many remember. Over a thousand men got killed, and another thousand taken prisoner and tortured, with thin wire around their neck then to a raised leg, if the prisoner dropped his leg he hung himself. These were National Servicemen not regular Soldiers how could our Government send them there, as this was not a Declared War so no compensation would be awarded to the relatives of a Soldier Killed. National Service as peacetime conscription was formulated by the National Service Act 1948 From 1 January 1949, healthy males 17 to 21 years old were expected to serve in the Armed Forces for 18 months, and remain on the reserve list for four years. They could be recalled to their units for up to 20 days for no more than three occasions during these four years. Men were exempt from National Service if they worked in one of the three essential services Coal Mining Farming and the Merchant Navy for a period of eight years. If they quit early, they were subject to being called up. Exemption continued for conscientious objectors, with the same tribunal system and categories. In October 1950, in response to the British involvement in the Korean War, the service period was extended to two years. I was serving my National Service in Germany when it was found that more troops were needed so, on the eve of my release, I was told that I must remain for another six months, and on reserve for another three and a half years, to be called back at any time needed. So now my service would cover some five and a half years equal to those who had served in the war. We did not think this as very fair, as any job we might get would not stay vacant if we were away for some time. I did the extra six months many of my Regimental pals went to Korea, our Tanks were taken away to be used in Korea, we were issued with old type Propelled Guns. I did get recalled three times once back to Germany other times to keep the Barracks of Regiments abroad Staffed in England. Those thirty who did go to Korea were added to the Fifth Dragoon Guards. They served with distinction, sorry to say the have all passed on now.

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Percy Seymore was in my class at Heber Road School he was badly injured when Darrel & Crystal Palae Road got bombed. The shops on Goodrich / Landcroft Roads used to be Murtons Sweet Shop and Flectures the Grocers. Facing was a dirlect two story building that was fenced arround when the war started with scaffold boards stood upright, when the war ended we pulled all that boarding down and set it alight in the middle of the crossing, the heat was so great that the margerine stacked in the Grocers shop melted and ran down the incline of the window display and could be seen against the Glass window. There was a Red Post Box on that corner, my brother who was serving abroad received his letter partly burnt. Some of the Lads who live in Lancroft were Lenny Davis, The Carrs, Holmans, Eric Bowen, Dougi Briggs, the Filkins, Alan Liversage. In Goodrich Road lived the Hardleys, Peter Howden Peter Bill & John Morgan Ray Horgan, Don Utton, Micheal O'brian, Arthur Weston, Peter Hine, and the Ice cream man who rode his tricycle ice box, who used to call out something like " Georgee Wood got a little bit of good ". We used to sit on Murtons front step making up episodes of Dick Barton, you had to get him out of the situation he was in and get him into another one.

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Sorry cant find any U.S. Cheeky Postcards

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If there is any interest I will post one postcard for every 50 views.

Cards we bought but dare not send.

http://www.camberwellboroughcouncil.co.uk/prefabs. More imformation on East Dulwich, in days gone by.

Aisatsu. Watashi no kioku wa, mohaya watashi wa, go kib? no h?h? de anata ni hanasu no ni j?bun'na gengo o hoji shimasen. Nihongo de comunicate suru koto ga dekimasu ?ku no hitobito ga sonzai shite inai y? ni watashi wa anata ga eru koto o subete no mess?ji ni ky?mi o motte imasu. Greeting. My memory no longer retains enough language to speak to you in a way I would like. I am interested in any messages that you get as there are not many who can comunicate in Japanese.

We bought our cat from the pet shop in Crystal Palace road, we loved looking in the window at the baby chicks huddled under an upturned dust bin lid hung from the electric cable where a single light bulb kept them warm. Those I remember who lived in Whately Road ( always pronounced Waitly Road ) 1939 up were Kenny Jenkins, Sid Gerkin, his mum and dad, who lived opposite the fish shop, I remember one year it was very cold they broke up their piano and put it on the fire, Sids dad always stood at the top of the front steps rolled up sleeves & broad leather belt and braces. don't know if this was anything to do with the Bookies runner who called in the road I remember a young girl who lived next to the Fish and Chip shop in Landcroft Road named Iris Dimmock. Good fish shop where we got our battered fish and crispy chips and sometimes a bit of crackling and an onion. Sorry I don't remember your family name perhaps a few more clues? There was a shop called Blackmores but cant remember where it was.

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Have you thought that it serves a purpose? Saying that you have a basement flat would imply that there is damp or condensation present, to remove this extractor could cause you a lot of problems, unless you intend using another more suitable unit. Try hanging a tissue over the outlet vent pipe to see if it becomes damp.

I have been here a few years and not found Wally Road yet, is it near the Carpenters Arms? If it is near Chipping Dale mind the saw dust.

Every day there was something that you would not want to save but it happened, so the memory lingers. During my junior school days my friends included one from Goodrich Road and one from Landcroft Road. The one from Landells Road liked making modal aircraft from a kit my other mate liked to call round to see if he could help in his home just a few doors down from Gosling the Grocers on the corner of Lordship Lane. My mate also bought a kit and started to build it from Balsa Wood glue and tissue paper, he had to make a frame of the wing to do this he had to form a shape with pins banged into a sheet of wood, inside this he had to cut to size, and place in the template of pins, then glue together, dampen the balsa strips to be able to bend, some parts had to be cut from a sheet of balsa marked ready to cut with a razor blade, we learned that one edge had to be covered by a strip of Gummed tape to stop your fingers getting cut, when the wing was all glued and set , there was the frail tissue paper to be glued to the wing, then lightly brush a dope solution onto it to shrink it and become hard enough to paint. Making the wing had taken some days so he had not seen Arthur for several days as it was school holidays. My friend now wanted to show his finished wing to Arthur, so he called round carrying it carefully in the kit box it had come in. Bill knocked at the door, asked if he could see Arthur, as he had made a bit of a modal, The woman looked at him and then went back indoors, after a while a man came to the door, he simply said, ? Arthur died three days ago of appendicitis?. Bill was unable to answer and came away. This affected him for a long while, it was a great shock to us all that this could happen, not caused by bombing but an illness.

Little did I know at that in two years I would leave school and become an apprentice carpenter, and be employed in repairing those houses that were bomb damaged by a series of bombs that devastated this whole area, leaving a space where a school was built, and I remember that I was helping a carpenter to replace an attic roof and window with no scaffold , I suspect it was the ones that was replaced as simple as we could make the pair near the bus stop, I remember the houses on the bend of Barry Road the rooms were so small they looked like a dolls house, with hardly any back garden.

Some memories are not so good. I witnessed this in Barry Road in the afternoon, August 1943, the man was leaning out of the top attic window in a house between the Plough and Goodrich Road, on that side of the road, we were held back by the Police and the buses were not allowed to pass. Here is the News item. BESIEGED MAN USES LAST SHOT ON HIMSELF London Tragedy From Our Own Correspondent LONDON, Friday After he had held off police and troops with a shotgun for 14 hours, Owen Munro, 29, of Barry rd, East Dulwich, shot himself early today. The siege began yesterday after- noon, when Munro, who was considered mentally unstable, was told he would be taken to a mental institution. When a doctor and assistants arrived he sat on a landing in the top part of the house with a double barrelled shotgun across his knees. He warned them he was going to shoot. Police wearing gas masks used tear gas unsuccessfully. Munro's sister was persuaded to go up with a cup of tea containing a sleeping draught, but he did not drink it. He used his sister as a hostage, but she escaped during a gas attack. Soon after midnight a military squad arrived with large smoke bombs. These did not affect Munro, because he retreated to his room, in which all the cracks were blocked. "It won't affect me; I'm not moving," he shouted. When police attempted to infiltrate up the stairs, steel trays, which they were holding as shields, were riddled with shot. Finally Munro ran out of ammunition, but kept the last cartridge for himself. Watchers in the street heard a cry of "Mother!" from an attic to which he had run. A single shot followed. Police and firemen battered down the door, and found Munro dead with a gunshot wound in the head. Munro's father, mother, and sister were present during the entire incident.

Highwood Barracks Administrative history: In 1859, following various scares on the international scene, a nation-wide military volunteer movement sprung up in the British Isles. Camberwell was well to the fore. A few of its inhabitants formed what became the 1st Surrey Rifles. John Boucher, formerly of the 5th Dragoon Guards, was appointed Captain Commanding on 14th June 1859; it is from this date that the Corps was officially recognised for seniority. Surrey, of which Camberwell formed part at that time, was the fourth county in order of seniority in the Rifle Volunteers; there were later over twenty Rifle Volunteer Corps in the county. The 1st Surrey Rifles orginally had their Drill Ground at Hanover Park, Peckham. The uniform was green with scarlet facings. They were armed (and at their own expense) with a short rifle grooved on Captain Boucher's plan; Boucher was a man much interested in rifles, and had been Secretary of a club called the Hanover Park Rifle Club which was basically an athletic club for young men. It was largely from the membership of this club that rather naturally the original volunteers came in 1859. In 1863 a new branch of the London, Chatham and Dover Railway was being plotted, and its route ran right through the Drill Ground at Hanover Park. After some trouble a site in Brunswick Road (since the 1870s called Flodden Road) was secured. The Foundation Stone of the new Head Quarters was laid on 27 December 1864, and the opening took place on 1 July 1865 by the Lord Lieutenant of the county, the Earl of Lovelace. These buildings, which still stand, were designed by a serving officer, Ensign John Thomas Lepard. There have been a number of changes in title through the years. In 1882 the Corps, then called the 1st (South London) Corps, Surrey Rifle Volunteers, was linked with a Regular Regiment of the Line - as indeed were all Rifle Volunteer Corps throughout the Kingdom. The Corps became then in 1882 the 1st volunteer Battalion of the East Surrey Regiment, although in fact it was never called this but remained the 1st (South London) Corps, the East Surrey Regiment. In 1888 it was officially retitled the 1st Surrey (South London) Corps, East Surrey Regiment. After the enormous enthusiasm of the first few years, the Volunteers settled down in the 1870s, 80s and 90s to a routine the same year by year. There is no doubt that the greatest Volunteer enthusiasm (after that which brought it forth in 1859) was during the South African war of 1899-1900. The 1st Surreys not only sent three Volunteer detachments in 1900, 1901 and 1902 to swerve with the Regular 2nd Battalion of the East Surrey Regiment, but about 16 men served with the C.I.V. (City of London Imperial Volunteers); others also served with the Imperial Yeomanry and in Loch's Horse. On the formation of the Territorial Force in 1908, through the reorganisation of the Army by Mr Haldane, the Secretary of State for War, the 1st Surreys became the 21st (County of London) Battalion, the London Regiment (First Surrey Rifles). It now formed part of the 6th London Infantry Brigade. During the Great War, the First Surrey Rifles fought with great gallantry and distinction, and also with tragic loss. Within weeks of the outbreak of war, a second line Battalion was formed; and later a third line as well. the 1/21st served continuously on the Western Front from March 1915 to the end of the war. At the battle of High Wood on the Somme in September 1916, the Battalion was all but annihilated, and only some 60 men came out unscathed. The 2/21st embarked from France in June 1916 and after service on the Western Front until November of that year, it went onto Macedonia and Salonika. It then went to Egypt and Palestine, and took part in Allenby's campaign, and was present at Gaza, Jericho, Jerusalem, and in the Jordan Valley. The 3/21st was a Home Service Battalion, and never served overseas, but trained reinforcements for the 1/21st and 2/21st. Reformed after the war, the Battalion became the simpler titled 21st London Regiment (First Surrey Rifles) in 1922 following the formation of the Territorial Army in 1921 from the Territorial Force. In 1935 the F.S.R. were converted from Rifles, and became the 35th (F.S.R.) A.A. Battalion, Royal Engineers (T.A.); in this role they became a Searchlight unit for the air defence of the U.K. Subsequently during the World War they became a L.A.A. Regiment under the title 129 L.A.A. Regiment, R.A. (F.S.R.). The Regiment served throughout the World War in England. On the reconstitution of the T.A. in 1947, the F.S.R. were formed as 570 [750?] L.A.A./S.L. Regiment, R.A. (F.S.R.) (T.A.). In the disbandment of A.A. Commend in 1955, the Regiment was reduced to P and Q (F.S.R.) Batteries of 570 L.A.A. Regiment, R.A. (T.A.); in the further reorganisation of the T.A. in 1961 it became R (Surrey) Battery of 265 Light Air Defence Regiment, R.A. (T.A.). In this role it served at Flodden Road until the close of 1966 when it left its own Drill Hall, and moved to Grove Park and Bromley in a further reorganisation of the Reserve Forces. During the days just before the World War, the F.S.R. gained a new Drill Hall when the T.A. was 'doubled-up'. This was opened at Lordship Lane, Dulwich, and was given the name High Wood Barracks. The Foundation Stone was laid on 21 Match 1938. The F.S.R. served here and at Flodden Road until 1961 when the High Wood Barracks was taken over by another unit. In a summary as short as this, much must be omitted. But mention ought to be made of some other prominent features of the F.S.R. The very long connection with the Parish Church of St Giles, Camberwell, where, both outside and inside, the F.S.R Memorials are located. The equally long connections with Dulwich College Cadet Corps and Alleyn's School Cadet Corps. The very fine sporting record of the Regiment for many years; as also its many marksmen and shooting record. In its ranks have served men of distinction in later years, amongst whom was Sir Polydore De Keyser, Lord Mayor of London 1887-88; as a token of appreciation of his happy service, he presented the Regiment with a large silver rose bowl. In this connection, it may be remarked that in 1966 when the further reorganisation of the T.A. was taking place, R (Surrey) Battery had some 60 pieces of F.S.R. Silver. Some of this is now on long loan to both the Town Halls of Lambeth and Southwark. Most of the records of the F.S.R. (which in fact belonged to the F.S.R. Association), have been presented to the Minet Library in Knatchbull Road, SE5. There is a great deal of real value and interest in these records. Those who served know it was a great Regiment; let others see for themselves from these records.

Salvation Army Food Kitchen for the Homeless. The Citadel to become an over night accommodation.

corner of Dog Kennel Hill and Champion Grove? Do you mean Grove Lane & Champion Grove.