mockney piers

Just terrible. Absolutely staggering stuff I can't understand how anyone can justify murder in this way in their heads. If there is a hell I hope this boy ends up there.

That is sad indeed. She had talent that one. Sadly I'm guessing this won't surprise anyone. Long did she tread the path of self-destruction.

"East Dulwich has got the highest birth rate in Europe...And the kids as a right of passage" Although in fairness by the time they're old enough to have such a rite, most of them'll be living in the home counties ;)

I'm, confined by the school run limitations, bah humbug. Luckily Denmark hill thameslink train isn't too bad, and even when busy is only ten minutes of pain. If it doesn't work you're screwed mind.

There seems to be something of the self-contradiction about your post DJKQ. If our other invasions are futile (ie incapable of producing any result), what makes you think an invasion of Somalia would sort it out? We've seen from other attempts at nation building that you need the engagement of the people, an invasion of Somalia would make the warlords switch to guerilla tactics until such time as we left and they could carry on fighting for control. I can't see there is any political will to send in troops to maintain control indefinitely. There is a western backed faction who have set up a recognised government supported by Ethiopian troops and US Special forces and air power. It controls some of Mogadishu and err that's about it; as a work in progress it's clearly early days, but as it is primarily a Somali movement it has a better long term chance of success than a western invasion that will be another proverbial flame to draw jihadi moths to. Mind you the brutal realist in me thinks it would have been better to back Al-Shabaab as they look the most likely to have the ability to win. This is with the assumption that any peace is better than war and lawlessness and strife. In a talibanesque fashion things would improve (you only have to see how many afghans would prefer even the Taliban's rule of fear to the instability and war of today) and would probably curb piracy and the like in that rather frightening fashion that fundamentalist interpretations of sharia have of being effective. Of course islamists aren't exactly flavour of the month these days are they. Ultimately though the only path to long term peace and security in a country where warlordism is rife is either one of giving the brutal warlords jobs in the government and helping them steer towards democracy (the afghan method) or someone will win the war and liquidate their enemies (the chinese method).

No way, I didn't think she'd do public transport. Just to be absolutely clear I meant do as in the present tense of the action verb, not in the derogatory sense of having sex with. And sooooo what otta said about glace cherries!!!

Quack quack

You seem outnumbered in your interpretation of the word, everyone is clear and you have a different understanding, hardly surprising when you seem to struggle with the difference between imply and infer. Once again you seem to be mistaking your opinion for fact. Generally if everyone else seems to think something is quacking it's a bit pointless to maintain that it's not actually a duck, can we all be clear on this and I hitherto ban the mentioning of ducks.

I know what fg is thanks Jeremey. I never ate it at the EDT and wasn't accusing them, but I have definitely ordered it on a couple of occasions elsewhere in the past only to be sorely disappointed; I would never order it in a gastro pub these days, although it looks like I may never get the chance to regardless!!

It's not a case of trusting you or not, I'm just sharing my general experience of ordering foie gras anywhere that isn't a fine dining place and/or french.

An awful lot of 'foie gras' out there is actually just good quality liver pate, particularly in pubs that ponce up their menu a bit. Oops there I go again:-$

I thought ponce meant someone with an unjustified or false air of sophistication and that seems to be the usage Ted is aiming at. You really are bloody tedious sometimes ThoughtPoliceLady, I'm only just recovering from being told that my dislike of modern R&B is because I'm prejudiced only to discover I'm now homophobic too, I best let my mum and her wife know that's the case, they'll be most upset.

....and raisins...are your favourite foood...and I'll call it mocklet....just like yoooooooou feckin teddy bears, earworm mongerers the lot of them.

In all fairness bob it's probably a bit more prevalent in some circles than others. And some of those circles pretty much everyone is a nitwit regardless of their powderly mores ;-/

"Pub grub" classic!

Strychnine is underrated!!

Though to my knowledge no goose farmers have wandered into a bar and shot every other person just to make a point.

if you're ever in doubt where your coke money goes.... http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/07/los-zetas-may-attempt-to-overthrow.html

This is one of my bugbears, truly the most evil trade on the planet bar none, and as you say those who advocate doing this or banning that are happy to partake. On this one I really do feel strongly and won't touch the stuff for two reasons, a)I'm not funding yet another massacre in Mexico, and b)it turns one into an arsehole and I'm bad enough without that!!

...or indeed Rupert Murdoch did....

or c) ask the restaurants in question to stop selling fois gras - to which they thought "hmmm, we don't anyway but can get rid of this chap by agreeing with him and maybe get in the good books of the types who profess to care about this sort of thing" and said "yes absolutely".

I'm happy to declare publicly that on this I have to say really couldn't give a flying toss, but each to their own, if it makes Tom happy more power to him. More importantly, Lady Gaga, dressing mutton as lamb* is a particularly cruel animal husbandry practice.... *perhaps a bad analogy, she's more like a widget in a can of boddingtons, making a particularly bad product appear briefly palatable.

"...been banned in many countries including Israel..." A country where Tom's boycotting stance is now illegal....but I digress. Kind of torn on this one. Yeah it's a bit wrong, but as people point out there is much wronger in this world, not in the least Otta's beloved colonel. I only buy free range chicken but figuratively look the other way when I lazily buy some sort of marinated chicken wings blah and blah so I guess I'm willing to cross lines. Bottom [of said] line, it's bloody lovely with a good tokaji or Canadian Icewine, and for that reason alone i'll occasionally indulge myself, preferably supping the wine out of an ivory horn or you know, a dead child or something. For Ted's grey line is key, where do you draw it. I truly hope that in order to take such a principled stance, Tom doesn't consume oil in any form especially petrol/diesel, that he somehow manages to studiously avoid any goods manufactured in China, drink coke, take coke, interact with a NHS nurse from a country that can't spare her ....snip (you get my point)... shop in a supermarket, buy the Sun, get on a plane, hire a clown...blah...

and the winner is...Private Eye!! Buy it today, class issue of concentrated gloatage. maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wonder which will be first national newspaper to > print Brooks' picture alongside damning evidence > with the headline: > > GOTCHA!

What otta said. Yes it's double standards, but it's also some very tedious z listers guffawing and tittering for a baying crowd. It's like getting offended by the Jerry Springer Show.