So in fact making something from fish or fishes is fine but the latter almost certainly implies a number of different species whereas the former leaves it entirely ambiguous or implies that it is unimportant, is that right? Third person present, I missed singular, as in "you fish (second person singular simple present tense), he fishes", not that present necessary implies it's actually present, it could imply future or past, you'd need the present continuous "he is fishing", but then I digress...or am i digressing. In fact as digression implies some sort of vector then I'm digressing is perhaps a directional description as much as a temporal surely. Aaaaaaanyweay, so actually instead of being workshy, the lad without the house has sneakily been fencing of the wooded area whilst house boy builds his shelter with his collected wood. WHen time comes for maintenance he loans him the wood at exorbitant interest rates using the shelter as collateral, eventually getting hold of the house when the chap is unable to catch enough fish to satisfy the interest payments. Now out on his ear he is forced to work himself to the bone, exposed to the elements every night, whilst fence boy is well fed and sheltered and even rich enough to burn wood for mere comfort, yet still able to pay enough of the fish guts and heads into a welfare pot to stop the lad from actually starving to death or being forced into crime (ie eating some of those fish he catches for himself rather than give them to his creditors)!!! Which one's the bludger again? But now I'm just being silly...or a damned pinko liberal, it's hard to tell.