DG

new mother Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dg, women who have had "bad outcomes" yearn for > the marginal problems that may or may not come > from an elective section. I find it surprising you > can raise minor issues which really are the icing > on the cake, if they are true at all-as they > aren't my experience or that of ClareC- in a > context where the downside risk is bran damage or > death to the baby. I was commenting to you directly, and your rather cavalier comments, as it goes Please don't try to deflect my comments by using the sad stories of other posters to the thread. In your case I think you were trying to build a case that CS is a 'better' kind of birth all round, even in low risk pregnancies. Something which others have pointed out, is a patent nonsense

new mother Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Funnily enough ClareC mentioned her children had > had fewer bugs etc than those of her friends > delivered pv. This is entirely my experience and I > raised it in an earlier thread as I formula fed as > well and was confused by the apparent and > unexpectedly robust nature of my ch.? I don't think there can be any doubt that, anecdotal evidence aside, the best start for human children is birth and feeding the way 'nature intended' There is much to be discovered still on these matters, ph abd bacterial colonisation of the infant gut is just one area of research.? We mess with this at our peril and need a far better reason than fashion or personal preference, surely?

It's pretty busy, ditto weekends but is quieter early in the day. Nothing like gambados though. Toddlers are fine racing around by themselves

LizzygotDizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No I cut and pasted it from an e-mail sent to us > by our Senior Partner, so doubt it is a hoax, I > assumed it happened to her though sounded very > personal, and I had to take some things like > proper identities out to protect people before I > posted it on the forum, will ask if it actually > happened to her, the likelihood of getting a copy > of the same thing isn't rare though as we do have > over 500 people working here and were all asked to > forward it on to friends and colleagues, but just > to put my curiosity at rest will ask anyways. Look at the link I posted, this has been doing the rounds for a long time, identical story (though in $$ not ??) http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoaxDetails.asp?HName=Visa+%26+MasterCard+Fraud+Hoax&Page=4 "Type: Urban Legend Description: An email message warning of a modus operandi used by malicious individuals to acquire Visa and MasterCard numbers is spreading in the Internet. It tells of how a swindler identifying himself as a credit card security officer phones target persons notifying them that their cards have been flagged due to unusual purchase patterns. The caller then elaborates on the situation and requests to get the three-digit PIN number of the card. The message ends with a cautionary note informing recipients of this email chain letter how credit cards of owners who fell for this fraud were used for purchase by the phone caller. However, Visa and MasterCard have not verified these claims as true. Though there is a small likelihood that the event it discussed may happen for real, the very fact that it takes more than the last 3-digit PIN to decode a user's account disounts it as a hoax. Trend Micro advises its customers to disregard, delete, and not pass this email message anymore because it is a hoax. Original Message: Subject: New Fraud technique This was just sent from M. Pearson who got it from a lady she works out with. So, beware-- Subject: VISA & MASTER CARD FRAUD We all receive emails all the time regarding one scam or another; but last week I REALLY DID get scammed! Both VISA and MasterCard told me that this scam is currently being worked throughout the Midwest, with some variance as to the product or amount, and if you are called, just hang up. My husband was called on Wednesday from "VISA" and I was called in Thursday from "MasterCard". It worked like this: Person calling says, "This is Carl Patterson and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card issued by 5/3 bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a marketing company based in Arizona?" (Blah blah) " Sorry!

I think this is a hoax, it's an urban myth doing the rounds http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoaxDetails.asp?HName=Visa+%26+MasterCard+Fraud+Hoax&Page=4 Though it does pay to be cautious, of course, if called by someone purporting to be your bank!

I did get out and tell/show him I'm pregnant and told him I have my little boy in the car too. It was his own fault for cutting me up so I found it hard to squeeze through, surely bus drivers should know not to go into a space if they can't get through without bullying other drivers!

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope you have complained DG. Did you get the bus > number? There is no excuse for this kind of > behaviour from bus drivers. Where does the filthy > coward get off anyway picking on a woman on her > own? (6) Proabaly made him feel really good about > himself no doubt. It was 574 or 584. I complained last night to Tfl, who said that I wouldn't hear anything further usually, they'd "try to identify the driver" so I'm going to call Arriva too, shortly.

He rushed forward on Underhill Road which is very narrow, trapping me behind a parked car, and I was nervous about squeezing through, as it was raining/dark/car steamed up/I was feeling quite unwell

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I just got treated really aggressively by a P13 bus driver on underhill Rd who squeezed past me so close I couldn't move forward, in the rain and steamed up windows, and then opened his window to shout abuse. As I'm pregnant and was on the way back from the doctors, not feeling very well, this was pretty much the last straw and I've now made a complaint to Arriva/Tfl. I can't believe a bus driver could be so rude and aggressive!

AllforNun Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > as for shady - this is England we have about 6 > weeks of sun a year...and there are 52weeks a year > so that leaves 46 Actually, it is often too sunny for sensitive toddler skin!

AllforNun Wrote:> Does it not strike any of you playground militants > as odd that it is so sparsely used. It's not, it gets really busy!

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,61407

tinagwee Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > my fella tried spice republic and he said it > looked and tasted like the meat had been added > after the sauce was made and it wasnt proper > chicken, more like reconstitued stuff. He wasnt > impressed at all and he isnt fussy. any other bad > reports on spice republic? I'm a veggy, so can't comment on the meat (veg options are very varied and tasty) but my carnivorous boyfriend doesn't complain. He has lamb mostly though I think.

best legend Wrote: However I think the most effective > way to tackle this is to make the parents who are > doing this aware that it is wrong, puts children > at risk and is upsetting for other parents. I have actually spoken to a number of the parents who are offending, they all have excuses why it's OK for THEM to park on the zig zags... as if THEIR car is transparent and isn't going to be the cause of a child getting squashed trying to cross the road. It's not the case that they're not aware it's an offence. They just don't see why they shouldn't go ahead and do what they want anyway. Typical selfishness and laziness. I'll watch with interest to see whether a polite request to the parents by the school makes any difference. A friend's nephew was killed crossing the road outside his school, so I take this very seriously.