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Ah, in which case I like the Dog but hadn't considered it 'ED'. Laurie, NOW we're talking! I shall hotfoot it to the Montague. Is there liable to be any gang-fighting going on at any particular time, or am I doing QRP a huge disservice here? Yours, Jacqui Smith. p.s. agreed about the Herne - definitely a weekday evening pub. Can't blame them for going for the with kids weekend market, mind. Laurie Eggleston Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's the other side of Peckham, but The Montague > Arms near Queen's Road station is legendary - won > Camra's 'Best Boozer' last year and is well worth > checking out. Try their awesome Sunday roasts too. > Maybe worth starting a best local pub thread? (if > there isn't one already!)

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah well if we?re talking Royal Oak level here then > I would say that this entire city only delivers a > handful of pubs of that calibre. East Dulwich > doesn?t but in fairness we are only an obscure > corner of South East London. This is a fair point. But if you don't aim high... > > Although if you're looking for good beer, good > atmosphere etc there's the Gowlett, the Herne, the > Dog. I would love to say the CPt but they don't > have any decent beer at the moment. The Herne I view with a wary eye as being borderline - it's alright, beer-wise, most of the time. Otherwise a good enough boozer. What is this Dog of which you speak?

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't like 'superb pubs'. > > They are inevitably full of people whose purpose > in life is to seek-out 'superb pubs' and drone on > about original etched glass, cask conditioned ales > and other superb pubs which are also superb, > actually. > > I'd rather go to the Gowlett. With my mates. How ironic then, Bob, that I have just plotted to go to the Gowlett - my first visit, I've been scouring BITE for a bit of drinking respite in ED - in a few days' time. With a mate. My definition of superb has nothing to do with etched glass (although that would be to ignore many of Edinburgh's finest) and everything to do with no muzak, no ainless TV, very good ale and cheap, good food (it really isn't difficult to do a ham sandwich). *Drone ends*

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Medley Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > at least two decent pubs; > > eh? Surely if there is one thing it has is enough > and a diverse enough range of pubs to cater for > pretty much all tastes. Brendan you have got to be joking. When I say decent I don't mean extant, I mean flipping superb. I don't mean a Clockhouse, I mean a Bree Louise (Euston), a Hollybush (Hampstead), a Royal Oak (Borough), a Whitelocks (admittedly in Leeds). I mean superb. ED has a miserable tatty trail of wannabes and outright failures. Hence the need.

jacki Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A yummy italian ! What do you think Si Mangia on Forest Hill Road is for?! Otherwise, ED needs: the Tube; at least two decent pubs; an arthouse cinema (Peckham Plex is great for the mainstream stuff).

Hugenot, well said. Proof that the people who want nothing to do with politics - for what sounds like a valid reason in this case - are exactly the ones who should be involved.

As if traffic lights are a substitute for speed control! It's only a pedestrian-activated set, so if no one wants to cross...there ain't no traffic lights. So at night it's one open stretch the vast majority of the time. Hence the absurd speeds reached. Even when drivers are starting off from the lights, they still reach concerning speeds before getting to the speed cameras on Peckham Rye. And you'll notice I didn't say I wanted speed bumps. I'm no great fan of them either. Just something to keep a lid on the speeds - changed street design, no street furniture, more street furniture, camera - I don't mind!

I definitely second the dog poo point. And the speeds traffic reaches on F H Road as there are no speed control measures there.

I was pretty anti speed bumps until I moved to Forest Hill Road where, as you all probably know, there aren't any. The speeds reached (at night in particular) are absolutely crazy. There are bumps on Honor Oak Park and cameras and bumps on Peckham Rye, so poor old F H Road is the only control-free gap. And boy do they make use of it. Every night there will be someone nearing or exceeding 60mph down there. So now I'm in favour of something - anything - down this road, especially as the Academy will move to its new site in Sept. 2010. I've written to councillors and my Assembly member about it, and something may be possible in 2011 apparently. The response from the council to the councillor was interesting - there have been several fairly recent accidents where speed was a contributing factor on F H Road.