Rockets

Are there none on the road you live on? There are a few scattered around on most roads.

Malumbu - can you provide any proof that CPZs have ever had an impact on emissions or climate change - or even car ownership for that matter (and I caveat that another great idea you champion for reducing car ownership - LTNs - was shown by Dr Aldred no less, to have INCREASED car ownership by 8% within the LTNs in Brixton since they were installed - go figure hey!). If the council was really serious about climate change they would do things to stop people having wood-burning stoves (a house near us has just been renovated and clearly the owner has had one put in as the smell of wood smoke is around all the time now and everyone knows how bad they are for the environment the dangers particulate matter pose), emissions from gas boilers or do more to encourage the switch to EVs. But no, they try to dupe people that a CPZ will help the environment - which is utter greenwashing diversionary claptrap. In fact, any time anyone tries to park in a CPZ area I suspect folks spend ages driving round and round in circles in the hope of finding a free non-resident parking bay. The problem is the council have to try and find a "reason" for the CPZs 9they can't say we need to raise more parking charge revenue) and claiming parking pressure is a wonderfully fanciful as everyone who lives round here knows that, in the main, there are zero problems with parking (maybe you should head over to Dulwich and take a look and see for yourself). It is going to be interesting to see what happens if the consultation returns an over-whelming "no" to the CPZs (thank goodness they were forced to re-run the consultation with a yes/no response after getting away without doing so in previous consultations). Last time out 68% of East Dulwich residents said no (and there seems to be more parking pressure there so it does seem weird that Cllr McAsh didn't decide to run a consultation in his own constituency this time round too...;-)) and the council went ahead with some anyway so let's see what they do in the village - maybe if they ignore the village folk they'll take to the streets and engage in a bit of civil disobedience - something Cllr McAsh is a big fan of!

CPZs, and the ludicrous and delusional claims by some that this somehow benefits the fight against climate change, may be a step too far by the council. I think many local residents have had enough of them trying to steamroller plans in that only benefit the council. The consultation will be fascinating and, given Cllr McAsh's - "it's not a vote" comments (he is probably saying this safe in the knowledge that there is no council election for a few years) I think it is clear they know the results will likely go against them and they will find a way to bring them in regardless. Oh and still no sign of the redelivered council CPZ leaflets......

Has anyone actually received the new leaflet - we certainly haven't (but we did get the first one)?

One wonders if our local delivery offices were just leading the way for the new three day a week delivery model! On Radio 5 this morning a lot of the contributors were saying they don't get post 6 days a week now anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68067702

Ha ha…Cllr McAsh seemed to be squirming a bit….here is the link…20 mins in - interesting that the meeting on the 10th at the library about 100 people turned up but were told it was 1:1 format and people had to register. Certainly when I saw the invite to the event there was no mention of 1:1 format or the need to register a second time. Cllr McAsh’s explanation is bumbling to say the least and he doesn’t sound too convinced of what he is relaying to the deputation group. It seemed to me it was a community meeting not this “drop-in 1:1” format that the council now seems to prefer….are they trying to divide and conquer, they really seem to hate having to address an audience of constituents….? - also interesting to hear that an FOI showed there had been no requests for CPZs on some of the roads that, on the council materials, had shown requests had been made. Another oversight per chance…..? - Cllr McAsh admitted there were problems with deliveries of the consultation leaflets and that there could have been issues with the company they use with the addresses…..this is rather odd because if you say hand-deliver to every house on Eynella Road how difficult is it….? The fact they are going to re-issue the documents is very interesting but they will have to get a crack on….and he seemed to indicate they will be posted rather than hand-delivered so expect to receive them one week after the consultation closes at yet more expense to the tax-payer! 😉 - his mention during the drop-in discussion about the active community in Dulwich Village makes me suggest they have a fight on their hands and maybe this isn’t going to be plain sailing for them….but also the fact that the council has, again, messed up communication. His closing comments on that part are incredible….that somehow because the local community had to rely on word of mouth to communicate about the meetings and more people turned up than the council was expecting, because people hadn’t received the council’s documentation, is a poor reflection on the council’s communication skills. His reminder that it is a consultation not a vote is a clear indication that the council is likely to ignore the views of residents and push forward with the CPZ regardless of the outcome. Oh my, we have seen so much of this type of behaviour before from the council - how many more times can they pull these tricks….?

Most definitely...you know how the fire brigade love to play with their toys and getting the boats out probably doesn't happen too often - no wonder it drew engines from all different parts of South London - it was probably a quiet morning!

There is an increasing crime problem in London, much of it goes unreported as it is considered a low-level crime - homicides may have dropped but that's not the only crime. Only last week police raided a house in Brockley where they found hundreds of stolen phones - each one of those is a crime. You can often see the kids on bikes circling Lordship Lane looking for victims and I presume this house was where their hauls were ending up. https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24028188.hundreds-stolen-phones-found-police-brockley-raid/ Perhaps the raid mentioned by the OP had something to do with the drugs raids they were doing in Clapham last week? https://twitter.com/LambethMPS/status/1747241087314411653?t=VYDNllZoQR5-HZbqCd161A&s=19

Yup....

There were 4 fire engines in attendance!

I wondered why there were so many fire-engines in the park this morning - glad the dog is ok

That is interesting as, of course, the council extended the deadline for one LTN consultation so it could send Labour canvassers door-to-door to drum up support for their measures. Someone, not from the council, has been going door-to-door on the affected streets asking people for their views on the CPZ, whether they think there is parking pressure etc etc. Glemham, were you at the meeting - if so was there anything of interest to report?

That is a shame - I suspect the machinery will probably be blocking the area in front of the gate near the bridge and it looks like they will use Cox's Walk for access and movement of materials.

It is going to be very interesting to see what the results of the consultation are on the CPZs in particular and what the council do next if the results go against them...I very much suspect they will proceed with it anyway as they were starting to allude to them having the final say (whatever the result) when Cllr McAsh gave his update.

<Removed personal jibe - please see orange notice at the top of this board> Climate change is happening and it is being caused by human behaviour and one of the biggest problems right now is people aren't prepared to make the sacrifices required. People are happy to sit and rant on and on about the damage humans are doing to the planet yet don't actually look at their own actions - we all trim things around the edges but are many actually doing everything they can to afford change and even if they do are those changes significant enough to have an impact? There is a worrying selfishness coming over people post-Covid that I really did not think would be the lasting legacy of the crisis and I am starting to very much subscribe to the mantra that those who shout loudest have the most to hide - as I see it time and time again from people in the area - a sort of climate change hypocrisy, people trying to convince themselves that they are doing their bit when they are very much part of the problem rather than the solution. Things are not helped by those who try to sell things like LTNs and CPZs on the basis that somehow their implementation is going to help climate change - it is utter codswallop and complete greenwashing and the council know this and are jumping on the bandwagon trying to dupe people that their plans are for the greater good - and they often find a willing audience like Clean Air Dulwich et al who will do their bidding for them. Perhaps, just perhaps, the CPZ feedback will be the catalyst for the council to be a little bit more transparent and do their best to unite the community rather than divide it but, to be fair, I said that after the LTN fiasco and this council leopard has not changed its spots and seems, like most politicians nowadays, to go looking for rifts to widen rather than narrow.....

Funny how irate some people have got about this (especially on EDF Facebook); all the person behind this is doing is encouraging people to respond to the consultation and putting their point across to try to influence the way people respond - which is exactly the same as the council did with the much glossier leaflets they spent money on producing and putting through letterboxes about the very same consultation. Clean Air Dulwich and Dulwich Roads are doing the exact same thing on social media.

Ha ha...very good! 😉 <Removed personal jibe> BTW here is a copy of the flyer that was left on cars across the area.

Great name!

Perhaps they need to find a good pair of cycling shorts with a good chamois..!!! Malumbu - it's pure political opportunism, he thinks he has something that will resonate with the electorate, and we need to put it in the same bin as environmental opportunism, greenwashing and environmental hypocrisy.....all of which are very prevalent nowadays as well.

Yes it was clearly an attempt by Lime to improve their PR and I am not sure if it did what they intended. It's clear there are problems with the way Lime manages the service, the way people use the services, the way councils are totally uncoordinated in their approach to the implementation and management of these programmes and it is clear Lime is desperate to be the only operator in the game. It all reads like it's a bit Wild West out there with no-one really knowing what's going on and everyone being blinded by the promise of a £ opportunity at the end of the rainbow.

What I find amazing is the enthusiasm from the council and their supporters to pour yet more money into that junction (how much tax-payers money has gone into it thus far and now they want to spend even more?) yet junctions that actually need attention - like the Lordship Lane and East Dulwich Grove nightmare - go untouched. I would be interested to hear CAD's thoughts on the removal of the pedestrian refuges at the junction of East Dulwich Grove and Red Post Hill (which are wrapped into the plans that they are so keen to validate and support in Dulwich Square!).

Interesting read: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/14/tiny-proportion-of-e-scooter-injuries-appear-in-official-uk-data

Interesting read: https://amp.theguardian.com/cities/2024/jan/14/lime-bikes-london-pavements-wayne-ting-ebikes-scooters

Whomever did it has gone to a great effort to cover as many streets as possible (I saw some cars on the driveways of houses in Dulwich Village this morning with them on) and by looking at some of the reactions on the EDF Facebook page they have really annoyed a few folks - the comment on whomever did it must be a "bored housewife with a bee in their bonnet or a husband who is impotent" is an absolute classic and has managed to draw even more attention to the message in the leaflets. Bravo to the mystery leaflet dropper! https://m.facebook.com/groups/900015513463302/permalink/3158225520975612/

Because if you took a walk around the local streets you would have seen cars with the leaflets still on them......... And this morning there were still cars on many roads with them on. P.S. I presume you are somehow trying to suggest I was behind it...love it (if that is the suggestion you are wrong).. .there are some typos in it and I am a stickler for proper proof reading! 😉