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I very much hope the person injured is OK. By the way, as you have posted this in a Dangerous Drivers Everywhere thread are you trying to suggest this was the result of a driver driving dangerously?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/cyclists-london-safe-bike-pedestrian-drivers-roads-b2583927.html

Be careful what you wish for and anyone with kids in the state system should be concerned about this too. The Greeks did this in 2015 with disastrous consequences. The measures negatively impacted the state school system and the policy had to be reversed. https://www.economist.com/europe/2015/10/30/greece-reconsiders-a-tax-on-private-education The problem is that the likes of DC, Allen's, JAGs etc will survive (and can probably absorb the costs) but smaller schools will inevitably go under - which is exactly what happened in Greece and that led to a big influx of children into the state system and class sizes grew to breaking point. Teachers from the private system who lost their jobs did not move to state and were lost to education. There is also the complex issue of exemptions for SEND pupils which is a minefield for the government as there are many SEND children in private without the relevant documentation as it can take years to get. Additionally, it is not just private schools that get tax benefits but vocational courses and even sports clubs so the impact may be much broader. As the Greeks found to their cost.

More than a few of whose owners no doubt come from the champagne branch of socialism....and we know how influential they can be once they get tje ear of local councillors! 😉

Yes Malumbu, of course you are, because you got what you wanted (but of course had no actual input as you don't actually live in the borough) but let's see how you feel if the same thing gets played back to you on something you don't want...then let's see if you are happy to turn a blind eye to willful political abuses of power. Be careful what you wish for and all that.

Southwark Labour actively avoided any mention of LTNs in their council election missives, hustings or propaganda. It was almost as if they were not a thing they ever forced upon their constituents under the cover of Covid without any proper consultation. The moment they won....ta dah...they are back again...claiming they had a mandate to continue rolling them out...charlatans....!

But they seem to be the go-to people for research on all things LTNs etc now that Aldred & Co have been shown to be anything other than impartial and have something of a bad name. One can only speculate as to why they are "opaque" - it makes you wonder who is behind them and how legitimate they are. Given Private Eye is sniffing around them I suspect it won't be long before we find out and my bet is they have very close ties to the very people commissioning the research or, as became all too apparent with Aldred & Co, they are not at all impartial and have massive conflicts of interest. It's interesting that Carlton Reid's article claimed: The newest poll was conducted by Redfield & Wilton Strategies, a 23-year-old London-based global polling and strategic consulting company. Yet Redfield and Wilton's own website says the company was started in 2020....it was almost as if Carlton (or whomever was pushing the research to him for coverage) was trying to legitimise the survey. The more you research into Redfield and Wilton the more you realise they are questionable to say the least - is that what the Private Eye article is suggesting DKHB?

I think a lot of people don't believe in activist research....the wild west of the research community where the conclusions are determined before the research has even started and the researchers have zero impartiality or credibility.

It's actually amazing they got 300 votes in a general election - does anyone remember when someone opened the Southwark petition for those against the closures and it got lots and lots of signatories and then someone decided to do one for those in favour and it struggled to reach double figures!

And that's just the money to pay for the work that is starting this week, one wonders how much the overall total is running at now - close to £5m perhaps? Apparently money is tight...they certainly dont spend like it is. Conway are making a pretty packet from this active travel racket.

I am not advocating a return to the traffic hell that was that junction previously but I certainly don't support the pouring of more and more tax-payers money into the junction - I read that the latest works are costing £1.5m....which is a complete waste of money - money that would be better spent elsewhere on the local road network but, for some reason, Southwark council are hellbent on spending it on that junction - it makes me wonder who they are pandering to.

Some would suggest that the works of Redfield & Wilton and the likes of Aldred & Co are also opinions.....

The criminal activity is targeted at areas where councils have an aggressive approach to revenue generation from parking enforcement because it sows uncertainty in those who receive the tickets. The criminals are playing in to the fact the council is hellbent on rolling out CPZs and has created pockets of CPZ zones and has a third company sending loads of parking enforcement officers to patrol the area. McAsh is commenting because he knows why this is happening and it is his policy that is the catalyst.

A sad side-effect of the council's approach to parking enforcement as a means of targeting constituents for revenue generation.

And your point is what exactly because it's pretty clear who commissioned the data isn't it - in fact they are quoted as the source of the information in the second paragraph of that article so they aren't exactly trying to hide it? Can you find any information on who paid for the Redfield & Wilton report.......? Because they didn't do it for free....I suspect if you ever manage to find who funded it it would be quite enlightening as to why they came to the conclusions they did.....

Actually here is what really happened. The council had tried, for years, to convince people that the junctions needed closing but they could not get local support for it (it was the OHS programme) The DV junction was an awful junction not because it was a "rat run" as you claim but because it was one of the only East/West routes across the Dulwich area The council did, however, spend lots of money on making changes to the junction that actually (according to their own data) increased congestion and pollution. Covid came The council then used emergency Covid powers given to them to close the junction to "aid social distancing" The council did this because they didn't need to consult and get local support for their closures (which they had failed to do previously) - they used Covid as the Trojan Horse to get their changes through A lot of local people were very angry about this and One Dulwich was born to represent those voices as the council were trying to convince people that only a "small vocal minority" objected to them and were trying to actively drown out any people who dared question their actions. One Dulwich asked people to register their email on their site if they supported their cause - that total currently stands at 2,100 people and they shared the locations of where those people were located to drown out accusations that they were not representing local people https://www.onedulwich.uk/supporters The closure made the junction wonderful because no traffic could use it but it displaced the traffic to other routes across the area increasing congestion and pollution for those not lucky enough to live in the closed area. The council then went chasing the displacement by rolling out timed closures and new traffic measures around the new routes people were taking because the shift to cycling they dreamed of never materialised because closures never have the % modal change needed for them to be effective The council had to put a red light filter on the turn from Dulwich Village onto East Dulwich Grove because the traffic was worse than it had ever been through Dulwich Village. The council put in timed closures along many of the displacement routes to try and mitigate the impact of their closure The closures caused huge issues with response times for emergency services but the council, for some reason, ignored the input from the emergency services for over a year - and actively tried to convince people there was no issue. The council prioritised cycle traffic over everything else at the junctions which is causing issues for pedestrians The council already spent huge amounts of tax payers money on that junction at a time when it was pleading poverty and when other parts of the Dulwich transport infrastructure was crying out for investment. They submitted a plan for around £8m that was laughed out of the room They were then forced to consult on the junction and they did not have a mandate from the responses to roll out anymore changes yet they are going ahead anyway The council are doing more than landscaping at a huge cost to the tax payer - attached is the copy of the letter sent to local residents to warn about the disruption which is due to last at least 5 months. Local residents are continuing to question why the council is hell-bent on wasting huge amounts of tax-payers money on that junction - but they are pleased that the council is putting cycle speed calming measures in place (despite the council and their supporters claiming there is no issue with this) Councillettertoresidents.pdf

There isn't any because the anti-LTN lobby didn't pay a company to find the results it wanted......the pro-LTN lobby on the other hand have used this tactic from the get-go and then they get pro-LTN journalists like Carlton Reid or Peter Walker (often giving them "exclusives") to amplify the results because they know they won't ever look at the detail and will just parrot supportive headlines. Activist researchers feeding activist journalists to amplify an activist agenda.

Please don't then post an article by a cycle protagonist using research from a pay to play research house who don't tell you who commissioned the research.....ah.... P.S. Interesting that in said research it also says that Londoners think that cycling should have the lowest priority..one presumes you validate that too? Funny how Carlton Reid didn't pick up on that finding.... When asked which mode of transport should be given the highest priority on London’s streets, 37% say buses should be given the highest priority. 21% believe pedestrians should be given the highest priority, followed by private cars (13%) and cyclists (12%).

...with people who live WITHIN the LTNs....a vital part of the story that you have, perhaps deliberately, left out......

The council ought to get some officers down there like the City of London police did at bank - there are rich pickings there and they're leaving a lot of money on the table! 😉 They could do with some cash as the works that are about to start at that junction, which are going to take 4 months and cause a lot of disruption according to the leaflet that the council dropped through our door warning residents about the disruption, is costing a fortune ion tax-payers money!

Greyhound Cars are very good.

I am surprised he got that many votes!

Well it seems the offer of a duel at dawn from Hen123 (are they any relation of Mr Chicken per chance) was the catalyst for Clean Air for all Dulwich to go stand at the DV junction...and just look what they saw...and filmed....scenes very familiar to anyone who uses that junction...but, you know, anyone who dares suggest there might be a big problem with cyclist behaviour is just a bigot.

Mal, you're back! The self imposed exile didn't last long! Welcome back - we missed you.

Whomever he is/they are - they are doing a fantastic job holding the council to account and shining a bright light on some of the lies the council, councillors and pro-LTN lobby are trying to spin to the wider public. Thank goodness someone is doing it.