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I know that RRR is standard practice but don't you think ARR is what most people would expect? When I found out it as standard practice it made me question vaccines rather than just think everything was fine. But I guess some people question more than others.

I honestly and absolutely hope you two are right as my most loved ones are vaccinated. But the proportion of deaths among the vaxxed in relation to the unvaxxed I think is going up https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/997414/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_16.pdf (see page 12 a week later)

But unfortunately as you will see from this government document p.15 the vaccinated once in hospital are more likely to die than the unvaccinated. Let's hope this is simply because the vaccinated are from more vulnerable groups rather than the vaccine having an adverse effect on the immune system. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993879/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_15.pdf

Yes that is more or less how it works. To quote "1. Vaccination processes usually imply temporary immune system weakening, before vaccine-induced immunity is acquired. Hence, the vaccinated are fragilized during the vaccination process, and more likely to develop any diseases against which the immune system usually defends the body. This includes any viral and bacterial infections, and individual cancer cells that would escape extermination by the immune system during this vaccination-induced weakened period. This could cause cancer in the medium- or long-term. From "expert evaluation on adverse affects of the pfizer covid vaccine by Frontline doctors" https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/files/expert-evaluation-on-adverse-effects-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccination/

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If anyone actually wants to know how efficacy works see the attached document. The trials never tested for hospital admissions. The end point was a symptom and a positive pcr test. Pfizer has a relative risk reduction of 95% and an absolute risk reduction of less than !%. That means 119 people need to get vaccinated to for there to be 1 less case of covid. But 95% sounds better so everyone sticks with that.

Which countries have rolled out higher quality vaccines? Have we got them here? I do hope so! How do we know which are higher quality?

No I am not. The fact is that the number of covid deaths has been hugely inflated as anyone who does even the most superficial research knows (it is found to be covered here https://www.informedparent.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/CV19-SARS-CoV2-An-Exploration.pdf?mc_cid=2c4b402b69 ) Herd immunity would have started to build up even by the second wave which was so much worse than the first. Again check Our world in data (or one world in data sorry can't remember the name but is a fab statistical resource) and you will find country after country where a massive increase in covid deaths followed the vaccination. Most of us adults are vaccinated. Lets focus on protecting the health of our children so they don't go down the same route.

I would really like to know how my document is highly flawed so I could improve it. I would really like what I am saying to be wrong or not true and would be so genuinely happy to find it so. Please let me know. I have only recently come to understand quite how risky the vaccine is and this is at the same time as I have seen stadiums of young people queueing up to get it. I am very genuinely thinking of the children (including my own), if I push an anti-covid19 vaccination agenda at the same time I think this is no bad thing.

Dear parent, carer or person concerned about the well being of the children and young people in our lives I am extremely concerned at the prospect of our young people and children being given the covid vaccine. While the Joint Committee of Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) say that the government should hold off injecting our children till further data becomes available, I would suggest this is a temporary stay of action. The government has already produced behavioural change plans for children, classroom materials have been developed. It is even rumoured that children expressing hesitation about the Covid19 vaccine can be reported to PREVENT . For these reasons I think we should be highly prepared in case the government decide to change their mind. There are many reasons that we should be concerned. It is not simply the fact that children do not die of corona virus. Or that their capacity to transmit the virus is more limited than others in the population. It is that the vaccine appears to be causing unacknowledged and insufficiently recognised levels of harm. Furthermore evidence suggests that the same strong immune system which protects children from covid, causes them to be much more likely to suffer from vaccine harm. It is therefore essential to resist the vaccination of our children and to question and challenge the covid19 vaccination more broadly. I am attaching a pdf which I have written to elaborate these and other points. I have tried ensure that every single point I make is well referenced. I think what I am saying is important and I don't just want to be chucked into the anti-vaxxer basket.

I have provided an attachment with all the links in it.

Dear parent, carer or person concerned about the well being of the children and young people in our lives I am extremely concerned at the prospect of our young people and children being given the covid vaccine. While the Joint Committee of Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) say that the government should hold off injecting our children till further data becomes available, I would suggest this is a temporary stay of action. The government has already produced behavioural change plans for children, classroom materials have been developed. It is even rumoured that children expressing hesitation about the Covid19 vaccine can be reported to PREVENT. For these reasons I think we should be highly prepared in case the government decide to change their mind. There are many reasons that we should be concerned. It is not simply the fact that children do not die of corona virus. Or that their capacity to transmit the virus is more limited than others in the population. It is that the vaccine appears to be causing unacknowledged and insufficiently recognised levels of harm. Furthermore, evidence suggests that the same strong immune system which protects children from covid, causes them to be much more likely to suffer from vaccine harm. It is therefore essential to resist the vaccination of our children. I am attaching to the post a document where I have set out all my arguments along with links to back them up. Thanks for your interest.

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I know. Certain lobby groups have enormous power. The craziest thing about it all is that the lobby groups which have produced the material were actually given the funding to do so by the government. And now the government is effectively turning around and saying the materials you have produced are inappropriate. The govt should have done its homework first.

Yes I know it has and it is good to know the government listens but with two judicial reviews underway they didn't have much choice. The problem is it is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Schools have already adopted programmes by the inappropriate providers and are not even aware that this new guidance exists. oimissus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Department for Education has finally taken > note of what is being taught in schools and has > issued new guidance, which is very good news as it > should keep the likes of Mermaids, GIRES and > Stonewall out of our children's school, as well as > those peddling other inappropriate materials. > https://schoolsweek.co.uk/cancel-culture-gender-st > ereotypes-and-extreme-political-stances-what-new-d > fe-guidance-says-about-rse/

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > niledynodely Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > However if you want research by neutral > providers please see this Cochrane Review. > > Cochrane reviews are regarded as the gold > standard > > in all types of research. It confirms what I > have > > said. > > no it doesn't > > there's no suggestion that education should be > limited to periods and birds and bees The Cochranew review shows that sex education does not help reduce sexually transmitted diseases or teenage pregnancy. The whole basis for sex ed is that this is what it achieves yet rigorous research shows it does not.

Actually I don't have a homophobic bone in my body. I just pointed out that homophobic bullying is not the most serious form of bullying and that lobbies bang on about it in order to get money. I think you can be completely accepting of gay people (which I am) but not agree with the ideology of 'smashing heteronormativity'. That is my position. How we feel about people and ideologies are two different things.

Gay Conversion Therapy can also include a person wanting to overcome their same sex attraction and asking to discuss this with their therapist. That too is banned within the title 'Gay Conversion Therapy'. The opposition to it is as much an abuse of human rights as the image we have of the therapy itself. Ooo that will put the cat among the pigeons.

Just checking through these posts. That statement is an absolute nonosense. I think for example it would be great if they taught boys that if they get too involved with porn it can significantly affect their capacity to respond to a real human being. I would love young people to be warned about how sex bonds you to another person, or about anal sex being more risky than vaginal sex because the mucosal walls are that much thinner, or how they might feel after an abortion. There are loads of things which could be usefully discussed but I haven't seen them appear on the RSE material I have looked at.

Thanks for arguing this corner so well.

Hey TE44 - I was glad to see the contents of RSE resources ARE getting more public attention! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-gives-pupils-sex-advice-on-the-roll-of-a-dice-80hmsplws

Anyway I was glad to see that while some residents of Dulwich may be too progressive and liberal to be overly concerned about the contents of sex education they may not be representative of the country as a whole. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-gives-pupils-sex-advice-on-the-roll-of-a-dice-80hmsplws

If a child is vulnerable, for example he or she has suffered abuse at home or whatever, and they are then confronted with images of splayed legs, cross-sections of penises in vagines (e.g YOu, me and PSHE) or cartoon images of people engaged in sexual intercourse (Spring Fever), I think that there is a liklihood that these images and the context could trigger inappropriate behaviours (which are called sexual abuse although I would not be so quick to call them that - the authories would). For me this seems such an obvious risk I think that the onus should be on the providers of the material to prove that this won't happen. Of course it can't be scientifically tested one way or another, but rates of child on child sexual abuse have gone up in schools and my hunch is that some of the more sexualised curriculums have a role to play.

j.a. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NN - so you admit, it?s your faith that is at the > basis of your objections. > > And on the basis of YOUR faith, you believe things > should change, and that people who disagree with > you are being intolerant of your religion. > > Has it occurred to you that your beliefs make you > intolerant of other people?s way of life? > > I state - yet again - no one is telling you that > you can?t talk to your kids about this. You seem > to believe that the school has some kind of > hierarchy over you. You are a parent, take some > responsibility. > > > TE44 - I do not agree with ?cancel culture? in > general, I think it is a dangerous path that leads > to blindness. I?m not cancelling anyone, but am I > arguing with them where I think they are so wrong > that it is detrimental to society in general. You > can?t seem to tell the difference. > The exception being anti-vaxxers. You are a clear > and present danger to the human race. I don?t care > how you feel. J.a. I don't know which came first my faith or my love and respect for sex. Those are very deep questions and I don't think I should honour someone who treats me with such disrespect by trying to work out the intimate details of my inner life. There is an expression (from The Bible). I think it might be Jesus who says 'don't feed pearls to the pigs'. Hmmm that's a pearl in itself. I can see an ideology which has the potential to do immense harm to our young people. We already see the enormous damage of current ideology in the huge increase in numbers of young people suffering from gender dysphoria, many of them going on to have hormone therapy and even going on to mutilate their bodies (yes that is how I regard it when people under a certain age have mastectomies etc) . We see increases in sexually transmitted diseases, increases in young people having anal sex, increases in mental health problems and ongoing large numbers of abortions. We have decreasing rates of marriage, a decrease in the amount that people are having sex, and with what is being taught in our schools the potential for confusion will get worse. The people who will be worst affected will be our grandchildren. I care very much about these things and I would like other people to have a better understanding of what is going on. That might sound arrogant or patronising but I have spent a considerable amount of time studying the RSE agenda, much more time than the average person and so I think it is fair to say I have a better understanding. But I don't think I will feed any more pearls to pigs. You do just trample them underfoot.

I can only agree with everything you say. I'm glad I'm not alone in this!