franglaisia

Should have known they wouldn't fit.

Most enduring thing I ever started.

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Posturing Politicians Deeply Disappoint Protesting Poppets

Would it be possible to post here the names of the councillors who are pro closure, any of them who have (genuinely) objected, and a summary of any statements/replies received from any of the local MPs?

AnotherPaul Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was rough, > Now it's not. Banal bourgeois fantasy replaced real variety.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps your friend has visions too Franglasia, or > has been at the meths again? There used to be a lovely toxic breeze that blew over the Rye from a leather tanning factory, don't know if that could account for it.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Muriel Spark and, of course, William Blake But, I think in The Ballad of Peckham Rye he both lives and works on the Nunhead side of the Rye? (was it supposed to be Roberts Capsule Stopper Co, which has just been knocked down to make way for yet more flats) and William Blake's tree is supposed to be on the SE15 side too...that's to say someone claimed to me they knew wherabouts it was, though they didn't say how, exactly. East Dulwich not doing very well here.

Doodles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hate this sort of crap, > Good grief... .

I think it gets a pitying mention in The Young Visiters. There's also an Edgar Wallace story where the police in search of a murderer are ordered to go out and "round up all the Armenians in Nunhead". Charles Dickens is supposed to have died of heart failure while visiting a young female person in Nunhead. Once heard song on pirate radio station, lyrics went: "Waiting for the P3, never get to Nunhead, better get myself a moped". Never heard a truer word in popular song. (Note for younger readers: P3 is now 343).

Nero Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's getting off topic, so I'll veer it back. The > organic place is good, but do they sell Montezuma > chocolate? It's British, independent and, to me, > better tasting than Green and Black's. It's about > the same price. You can get it at SMBS or online. > Nero They only have one shop in London, at Spitalfields. Now this could be one that East Dulwich needs: http://www.montezumas.co.uk/. Even forgive founders for being ex lawyers.

wee quinnie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have you looked in Grace and Favour? They do a lot > of ex-Boden and such like in their second hand > clothes bit at the back of the store. Thanks for tip - have not been there since last year when they were still selling v lovely but rather expensive new items. Whole clothing stock now second hand and I think you have solved the mystery of where ED cast offs go, this is where! Lot of Boden, couple of nice Hobbs coats, but oh no, all stuff in very best condition was dreaded size 8. Must be optimist buys. Prices about the same as ebay but actually a lot of the G&F stuff not in such good condition. Were also couple of rather nice things in Mind shop. Nicole Farhi grey wool jumper with floaty ruffle, ?10. V posh. Prices at Mind shop and G&F seem to be identical but again the few things in Mind shop in v good condition. End of cheapshake shopping report.

Buggy Buggy (etc) - witty and true Cynical Council Auction Off Local Heritage - perenially true Used To Read Grauniad, Now Times - too true Better Than Forest Hill For Knicknacks - exactly expresses the Zeitgeist (not sure how to spell Zeitgeist) Home of the Eleven Pound Sandwich - incredibly true also like: yet another Cafe, still no Culture and Warehouse Place Sells Actual Lancashire Cheese (not very good but of interest to those starved of actual Lancashire cheese)

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I don't know. Eleven words and a hyphenated word. Do they count? There's no prize either Ratty unless I offer the bar of Green & Blacks I bought yesterday but can't eat now as have been clearly informed it's unethical. Starting to look like: "Too much education left them dull." Have received private suggestion "Third generation inbred Sunday supplement readers" but that's just too rude.

Following on book "Not Quite What I Was Planning", what six words sum up SE22?

What? Mr Original Cadbury must be turning in his Quakerly grave. That'll do. I can live without chocolate. Possibly. beef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Franglasia, here's something nasty about Cadburys > for you (apart from the rotten quality of their > product). They are in the processs of closing > their only british factory, putting half the > population of the west country on the dole, just > so they can make a larger profit from your cocoa > addiction by moving the whole shebang abroad! I'll > never shop at somerfield for the same sort of > reason, they have closed their main distribution > centre in Bristol putting my cousin (18 years > service) out of a job. Shop local, shop > independant. > http://www.tgwu.org.uk/Templates/News.asp?NodeID=9 > 3813&int1stParentNodeID=42516&int2ndParentNodeID=4 > 2516&Action=Display

Seems they are now part of Cadbury Schweppes. Please tell me something very bad about Cadbury's so I can now stop eating the stuff. If it was Nestle's, obviously could leave it on the shelf for ever more. Have Cadbury's been equally nasty? Reckon could slim down quite a bit as G&B's is the only chocolate I eat, linking it to moral revoltingness would do trick. karter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Piers says " And full selection of Green and > Blacks. Excuse me must go shopping." > > Lots of places do not sell Green and Blacks > anymore as they sold up and now are owned by > cadburys or nestle, cant remember which > (unethical)

Forgot the extra virgin olive oil. Have endless collection which looks beautiful, loath to take one off shelf and ruin it. And Swedish almond biscuits and Swedish glace. Excuse me must go shopping. Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm with you on that franglaisia, the Dulwich > supermarket you mention is one of the best shops > in East Dulwich. 500g Cypress almonds in there > ?1.99, 300g of the same almonds in Somerfield > ?2.39. Extra virgin olive oil ?4.49, in a not too > far off place that you also mention ?8.20. > >

I suppose pricing is about what the market will happily pay? There's a general grocery at the GG end of Lordship Lane that's open earliest and closes latest. It was the first to sell lots of useful stuff like various veggie items, very wide range of healthfoods, gluten free, seed butter, and has every variety of mozzarella known to man. But it's never gone in for the snob thing. Another shop which went big on organic food across the road, now sells all the same stuff, although they often get new things later, and they routinely charge 25% more for it. If you ask recent SE22ers, they've heard of the expensive one, never been in the other. Older shop just not trendy. SE22 now corporate lawyer and banker country - they are working in a US culture and increasingly living it - hence lots of people here for whom money is completely divorced from reality or value. Domitianus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can't not post this. Went out earlier to the V7 > newsagent near Green & Blue and bought a packet of > vinyl ring reinforcers for 79p. Used them all up > and (because I had got the last packet in V7) I > dandered into Ralon to buy some more. Same type, > same number (although different brand) and they > wanted to charge me ?1-60!!!!! I walked out. Is > he taking the piss? > > Anyone else notice any other examples of great > local bargains or excessive pricing?

dc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I think it was the first term that was won in such > a manner - > > It would be hard to argue that Bush won his second > term anything other than fair and square so, no, > it really doesn't cheer me up one little bit. Hm. Sorry, dc, can't agree about that - the group/website quoted below is educational about the 2004 election. But they think their is some good news following on "Today 27 states ? including such large ones as California, New York, Illinois and Ohio ? require electronic voting machines to produce a voter-verified paper trail. There is paper-trail legislation pending in a dozen more states." That's a bit late for poor old New Orleans of course where I think people (can't call them voters as so many didn't get to vote) were treated with most contempt. As the US govt is now effectively our govt and their banks and lawyers now own what were once ours, and hence run everything, I now take a lot more interest in the US elections than the sideshow that goes on here. < The web site http://verifiedvoting.org features interactive maps which illustrate voting incidents by county, state and the nation as a whole. The EIRS system is being used by the 60 member organizations of the Election Protection Coalition to build a database of voting information for use in post-election litigation and legislation. The coalition will also use the information to push for new voting regulations while lobbying public officials and e-voting vendors for improved voting processes and procedures. Because of the 2000 election meltdown in Florida, election watchers closely monitored polling places in that state. Matt Zimmerman, an EFF voting attorney in Miami, Florida said there have been multiple reports of voting machine problems in Florida where incorrect candidates had been selected by e-voting machines and voters had problems going back and changing their votes. He said most of these malfunctions occurred with the Sequoia Edge machine in Palm Beach County were voters were presented with preselected choices on the entire electronic ballot which were often skewed away from Democratic candidates."

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ernative more recent document? > > I don't think it is a matter of whether the > Livesey is "cost-effective, high performing and > fit for purpose", but that there will just not be > enough money not matter how good it is (and it > is). > > If the Livesey does get the money then something > else will have to be stopped, closed, or reduced. > If we say the Livesey should get the money then as > citizens we should also be saying what should not > get money. That is the reality of the 2008/09 > budget. Please don't fall for this. The Council will always find money for what it wants to do. If a developer has targeted a piece of land, or someone in the council is looking for money for their own pet project, they will try to close anything in the way, regardless of its non monetary value or usefulness. They try to do it quietly first. If someone kicks up enough fuss, and there is evidence of overwhelming public opposition, they then come up with a "public consultation" exercise. I watched them spend more money on "public consultations" trying to close down a small, hugely valuable facility, than the facility cost itself to run for several years. This pattern has been repeated over the years regardless of what brand of politician was in power at the time. Labour criticised the Tories for it until they got in and then did exactly the same themselves - although if anything their arrogancce and thuggery towards anyone who got in the way was worse. Would recommend taking note of the names of the council officer/s who are recommending the closure, the Councillor/s who are most enthusiastic about it and the name of the company the land is planned to be sold to.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I > remember how depressing it was when Bush won a > second term. Would it cheer you up at all to drop a reminder that he didn't win the second term. He stole it, courtesy of hanging chads, districts that didn't get enough voting machines delivered, ghost votes, etc, etc.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm with you! By the time I'm finally ready to let > something go, it means it is unwearable! Ha! So, you must be the person who does donate to the charity shops.

My dad was still wearing his de-mob trousers when he died but he didn't boast about it. HonaloochieB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know what anyone else does with their old > clothes, but I wear mine.