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healey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The lack of a direct rail link north to the West > End lies at the very core of the area's transport > problems. People either trundle up Walworth Rd or > head east/west usng rail/tube links. ^this. We should have campaigned hard for a direct Charing Cross train before the works at London Bridge really got started. Think it's too late now. I'm hoping that there may be an increase in trains once TFL take over, but even if there is, it's likely to be fairly marginal.

Looks like he's going to come out of Super Tuesday as candidate for the Republican party. Could he actually end up President of the US? Anyone feeling a little worried yet?

I actually feel much less concerned for long term residents in terms of gentrification (they largely seem like beneficiaries of house price madness), and much more for the young incomers (are they hipsters), who can no longer make a place for themselves in the Capital because of high rents, low wages and unobtainable property prices. London relies on people with talent and drive coming here and making it their home. It's hard to see that's going to continue when only oligarchs and football players can afford to live here.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The truth of the matter is, many 'old time' folk > from inner London locations such as our own, grew > up in a post war world of optimism and wanting > better for themselves and their kids. Many inner > London locations were slums, including parts of > Bermondsey, Walworth, Peckham & the Elephant. > Whole families in converted Victorian bedsits > through the 50s and even 60s. They wanted better > for themselves, and who could blame them? Cashing > in the two up two down terraced Victorian house > for some clean country air isn't a crime. I am > still contemplating it myself. This is why I see > Bromley as a draw (and Kent). I've always looked > outwards and beyond, wanting to be somewhere > different to where I've spent my entire life. > > On the other hand, the incomers want the reverse. > They're sick of country air and boring lifeless > samey suburbanism. They want to experience edgy > inner London with terraced pretty Victorian > properties etc. The fur coat and no knickers label > is a bit unfair on those working class folk who > just wanted to make a better life for themselves. > > > Louisa. Sounds like win win louisa

I bought my house from some people who'd bought it under right to buy. My neighbours house is a council property. Next door on the other side was a finance director and next to them a long term resident (I think that house might be council, or they might own it don't really know. There's quite a mix anyway. I don't recognise the picture often painted on here of everyone being rich, although there clearly are some wealthy residents who you probably wouldn't have found here in the past). It may be more diverse now than before 'gentrification', at least in terms of representation across the income spread.

..and Bromley is last years Croydon. West Norwood is so cutting edge, it started the day now and by lunch time was already then.

West Croydon is the new Penge apparently.

Soup served in your cupped hands, and the bread balanced on top of your head.

Both Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill get dangerously overcrowded. ED has seen very little change in capacity over the last decade or so (it went down from 6 tph to 4 and then back to 6), despite a huge increase in passenger numbers. Fundamentally, there needs to be higher frequency trains. As SE London develops and the population grows, the need to provide similiar transport to that which already exists in most other parts of inner London also increases.

ED is quite nice. I like living here, probably more than than I would living in Penge - but then if I were to move, I'm sure I would come to like Penge just as much after a little time. If you can, you should try and live somewhere you're happy and leave others to do the same. It's not a competition. That said, Penge does have an Iceland, so it's 1 nil to Penge.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Penge is OK. I bought some carpet there and > I've > > been to the MacDonald's. I wouldn't wet my > pants > > about it though. > > Let's also not forget, Penge is home to a rather > large Iceland store along with a Peacocks. > > Louisa. That's done it. Off to Peakcocks to buy some new grundies

right-clicking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I for one would welcome further integration, a > united states of Europe would make total sense, > this half in half out mish mash is what is letting > the whole shooting match down, I have travelled > extensively throughout Europe and the USA and the > parallels are there and obvious, one state can be > so unlike another, almost like a foreign country, > they have their own laws (state) and they have > union laws (federal) they set their own taxes but > have a common fiscal union. > Only when total integration is achieved will this > great experiment succeed then we (Europe) will be > in a very strong position to stand up to the other > super-powers > > Vive L'Europe!! I think there is some truth to this.

Penge is OK. I bought some carpet there and I've been to the MacDonald's. I wouldn't wet my pants about it though.

Have you seen the picture of the shepherds pie served in a pint glass on WWPs? Very funny.

>:(

I agree with you, the situation is pretty unacceptable. SE London is woefully under served by public transport.

Are you sure it's a dog howling? Could be fox bemoaning ongoing gentrification?

He's 60? Jeez, I clearly need to reassess my lifestyle

Retirement? How old is he?

Good post miga

Definitely it is not. Please do feel free to stay away.

Also, whilst some member state might be willing to quickly cut a favouable deal with the UK, it will only take one or two to dig their heels in to derail the whole process. Personally, I think the out camp are kidding themselves.

Bromley seems fine to me. don't really know Croydon, but driving through it feels like a strange shrunken city (with lots of tall, shiny buildings that on inspection aren't really very tall or shiny). The perspective seems all a bit off. Seabag makes it sound Quite an interesting place, I wonder whether he works for the West Croydon Tourist board.

Sounds good. I'm looking forward to trying it. May pop in for a swift one tonight.

A pretty balanced article on the Europe question: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/26/irrational-unhinged-gullible-many-who-want-britain-out-of-europe-deserve-listened