Lovely Mikecg, I apologise. I don't mean to take a pop at you particularly or make you feel bad about yourself. This forum has just collapsed into ruins lately, and I miss it. I am disappointed because it was a genuine secret pleasure of mine for a long time. None of the conversation on here is interesting or relevant anymore. I once read every thread, relevant to me or not. Look at that football thread for example. It is just base and rude. East Dulwich has improved, but this forum has gone down hill. I'm off... Toodle pip.