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Lived in Camberwell, Sydenham, Forest Hill, Catford, in 'rougher times'. I romanticize about Brixton when it was front line. Loughborough Junction was about the worst. But never felt unsafe. Gone are the days of brawls outside of the pubs on a Friday or Saturday night. Hardly even get approached for drugs any more (last time was Deptford). Queuing for the 363 at the Elephant late evening can feel a bit tasty, but nobody is bothering me. Feel more vulnerable in Bromley - more because it has a territorial feel, but probably just lads our for a few drinks and on the pull reminds me of the blood baths in Abingdon where I lived in the 80s on a Friday night. Hopefully this is a sad and isolated incident. There's been shootings down the road and in Brockley but don't fear for my life when I go there. I've questioned the misuse of 'Blitz spirit' in terms of Brexit but events like this can bring communities together. And much much better that my few weeks in Havering/Harold Wood. That was depressing.

Is it likely to stay as a pub (noting I agree with comments about the Youngs/Ram chain...). If not will it be the loss of a lovely Victorian pub? If the latter I'll make enquiries my my local 'save historic pubs) person - is it unique enough to be listed?

................ > > here > > but read between the lines: > > https://www.smmt.co.uk/industry-topics/brexit/ > > > Interesting, thanks - missed Radio 4 though. > > By way of comparison, the UK automotive industry > accounts for 4% of UK GDP. > > In Germany it accounts for an astonishing 14% of > GDP - the largest part of which is exports to the > UK. Would you not argue that UK motor manufacturing is an example of where we want to be as a nation - cutting edge, skilled workforce, niche position, focusing at what we are good at and encouraging inward investment particularly from Asia? Otherwise where is our economy going? There is a great comment on the BBC website "with all the money we are saving from leaving the EU we could set up our own car factory, and make sure that the public sector have use these cars". Perhaps Iran is a model where the Hillman Hunter factory was carted off in the 1970s so that they had an Iranian car, twenty years out of date, that the Iranians would drive. Or maybe relocate the Tribant or Wartburg factories. OK a silly example but seems to exemplify the belief of many.

Morning sweetie, any plans later?

Hmmm, you came across a bit annoying but so do many, including me. But there again I was accused of having psychopathic tendencies many years ago not knowing what it really meant. I thought that it meant a murderer. Now having only recently found out what it means, and reflected, that may have applied to me at the time. I think that must be a thread in its own right!

scrap is slang for fighting

Listen to the Radio 4 programme on now - I'll post a link, on the impact on the car industry. There's some usual misinterpretation, eg government policy on the sector (not talking Brexit here). But overall there is a strong enough message that this facks the industry. A less alarmist stance here but read between the lines: https://www.smmt.co.uk/industry-topics/brexit/ Now I'm not that sympathetic to the car industry with their poor environmental credentials and the like but it is pretty important to UK plc. Can those scrapping at the moment give their views on something pretty important and a litmus test for the impacts of Brexit? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cblx9

I'll go with this bloke: Mr Smith said Brexit, even on Mr Corbyn's terms, "would still shrink our economy, cost jobs and lost investment, indulge nativist nostalgia and isolationism... and pave the way for another austerity Tory government". Obviously creative use of soundbites by the British Brexit-bashing Corporation... Indulging nativist nostalgia and isolationism worries me more that the potential financial impact

Not sure that the recent scrap between three of you helped my understanding but you have the right to express and defend your views. Now for something completely different... In QT and other forums many have said that the Blitz spirit will prevail and those doubting this are enemies of the country. I don't doubt that beyond revisionists and little Englanders there is still a Blitz spirit (noting that crime, racketeering, pilfering and the like went up during WW2). 7/7 was a contemporary example of the country pulling together. Yet how do we get this Blitz spirit when this is clearly madness? It's like a role reversal in WW2 where Britain was the fascist oppressor. Would we have had the same 'fight them on the beaches' mass mentality? Views please

Interesting article albeit from the glass is half empty perspective (well almost totally empty) https://www.globalgovernmentforum.com/albion-through-the-looking-glass-britains-political-madness/?utm_source=UK+Wider+Civil+Service+31+March+2015&utm_campaign=a6483b46d3-UKW_BrexitAnalysis_AIFIN_AISAS&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e4b5027d47-a6483b46d3-193462461 An extract to whet your appetite (what have we learned?): That a deal forged to address the absence of technological solutions can only be rescued by recourse to technological solutions. That revealing the PM?s weakness increases her strength in negotiations. That it?s undemocratic to invite people to vote, and that they?d riot if asked their opinion. That we deny the far right power and influence by doing what they want. As the White Queen noted in Through the Looking Glass, ?sometimes I?ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.?

Noise - Council and local councilor Abuse - Community police/Safer Neighbourhood Team and local councilor Community police get involved in a lot of this sort of thing and can help stamp this out - it is also a soft option too in getting things sorted amicably (they will have lots of experience)

The National Radiological Board, now part of Public Health England, are responsible for advising on both ionising and non-ionising radiation. No worries. Ionising radiation is the nuclear stuff, non-ionising = mobile phones, electricity pylons, microwaves and the like,

Blythe never runs out of beer like the Ivy. I'll leave it there as a little joke. Some of the criticism of the Ivy on this site was out of order. Not sure if the Dog runs out of beer or whether the staff are any good, I will have to pop in some day but can't be motivated to make a special visit. Once reviewed a pub (fairly) and sent it to someone that I thought was the chair of a community group, that had invited me to the opening. To find that it was actually the manager (same first name as the gent who I had thought it was). He thanked me for my honesty. I'd been constructive. Thank heavens.

COBR is a facility where ministers make collective decisions. Meeting rooms, briefing rooms, whatever. It's not an operations room. 'Popycock' is that the army will be quelling civil unrest. Law and order is for the police services and the Home Office. It would be surprising if COBR was even being used at this moment seeing as we are not yet in crisis. Although it is a convenient facility/location and at times announcing that "COBR has met" is good for government, to show that they are taking action. Of course there can be these discussions around the cabinet table or between TM and the relevant Secretaries of States or through Cabinet Committees, and through correspondence. It's called machinery of government, and essentially part of representational democracy. Not bothered in the slightest if it is quoted as COBRA. Easier to announce than COBR.

COBR doesn't deploy the army, government/ministers do. COBR is a meeting room ie an inanimate object. What poppycock. Incidentally poppycock and other old quaint English expressions will be reintroduced under an Act of Parliament after we leave Europe, and foreign expressions like mea culpa banned. We don't want any Latin, French or German words in our language. I understand that ministers are considering this as I type down in their bunker. Tootle pip. Tally ho. Chin up. B to B.

Good postings, thanks all, helps enrich my understanding, and I expect I'll be using some of the views, both those I agree with and those I don't. A better and more informed debate than on Question Time. Cheers.

Interesting that you title this as good deed. I'd do this as a matter of course without feeling superior (which I expect is more me misinterpreting your words). Now if you titled it 'Karma, ungrateful driver gets their just deserts....'. I'd have also been tempted to have a gloat, leave a message on the windscreen, etch something through the paint with brake fluid, torch the car, film it for YouTube, have a party (delete as appropriate) but the driver doesn't know who I am or where I live!

I miss the Old Ritzy - great line ups including all nighters, often dreadful sound, and homemade style snacks with no loud popcorn. Once subsidies went that was the most of the art house cinemas. I suspect that Peckham is as Arthouse as most of the mainstream places.

In deed, Villa Park would have been three times the size but interestingly one of the stands in 1907 had an ad up for 'Hippodrome' https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Villa_Park_1907.jpg By 1938 it would have had large impressive stands with open terrace banks at each end. Walsall? Good spot!

Eyesite is a wonderful thing too, I thought it said Wednesday and was advertising a variety night. But I am pleased that even in black and white I could differentiate between red and white stripes and other stripes. And of course being hard midland/NE teams no issues in playing in slush. Although others could prove me wrong - Wednesbury? Closer to West Brom or Wolves.

A light hearted thread to take us away from the dark clouds gathering. And on dark clouds on Tuesday I cycled home in the rain then sleet then wet snow then heavier snow. A mate showed his pictures from playing five a side the same evening outside in Catford. The Mail, yes the Mail, had an article about jumpers for goalposts, orange balls, fans in bobble hats clearing the pitches and watching football in the snow on pen terraces. I was at one of the matches featured. Question is who is the mystery match in the slush in 1938 - I reckon Burnley vs Sunderland. Anyone know? Any other stories? Sorry this wont appeal to all on the forum. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4062310/Football-snow-Discover-groundsmen-footballers-fans-battled-elements-nine-decades.html

JC, if Canada and Ireland can manage with the metric system why on earth can't we. Wny are we so backward - can't we just leave that to the Americans? Metrification should have nothing to do with the debate. In the early 70s Kellogs ran a campaign on their packets to help us convert - 45 years later we are still stuck in the dark ages. Why why why why why. Anti metrification gets me even more angry than Brexit.

Expletive Delighted!

Do bear with Tradespeople - a lot of their time is currently spent listening to the Brexit debate on Fivelive or LBC and then having to phone in or text their views. Cabbies are under even more pressure.