bawdy-nan

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My understanding of what Helen Hayes said was that there was no modelling done for the proposed ban on the right turn and that this wasn't acceptable. In terms of trials she cited the relatively recent example of road changes at Paxton Green where the council proposed some changes, local residents anticipated huge problems, the council were persuaded to trial their proposals, the residents were proved right and the council changed the plans, the resulting changes being safer for cyclist and pedestrians (again this is near two schools) but not causing the knock on detrimental effects correctly anticipated by residents. In this case many of the problems with the proposed no right turn: u-turns in Greendale, increased dangerous traffic at nearby junctions also near schools, rat running of residential streets etc (all of which I agree are very likely) are worrying because they are likely to increase danger. If the trial proposed by Helen is done and non of these things materialise then that's fine isn't it and if they do then there will be evidence. Also it feels like we attended very different meetings - Cllr Andy Simmons didn't end up chairing the meeting - he just chaired the meeting; Tim Warin is from Sustrans, the "colleague" was taking minutes and the people for Safe Routes to School and Dulwch Young Cyclists were present and vocal and very clear, I thought that they wanted changes to the junction but had never understood the no right turn to be part of it.

I'm not sure it really matters does it? The idea to trial anything before commitment in order to get a proper idea of any implications for other junctions and streets, which the councillors seemed to want to push hard for, seems very sensible.

not quite 'nuf said the person that chaired the meeting was Councillor Andy Simmons

Mariamadeit Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I found a tens machine, until getting in the pool > and hypnobirthing techniques was enough for me > both times, every birth is different and I'm not > trying to say you shouldn't go for the suggested > pain relief but it is so worth exploring these if > you are up for it. Me too - but agree with the qualification

boo hoo - just got a ticket for this - was a very busy road looked like I was going to be clear and the traffic was moving - I had a green traffic light and then the lights ahead must have changed and I got stuck.... will take it on the chin and just wait until I'm absolutely sure next time ....

Hello Sorry to hear you're being put under pressure. I went to nearly 2 weeks and just beyond 2 weeks beyond due date with both of my babies who were both born at home, easily and healthily. I was under the Brierley midwife team at the time although had to meet with the obstetrician after being a week overdue. We discussed NICE guidelines and I had some placental and fetal monitoring (daily in the case of my 2 week plus over due baby). Both came naturally in the end (easy and quick labour) but I tried the following: reflexology, acupuncture, (both lovely); bouncing on a birth ball, fast walking, and sex (unwieldy but not unpleasant); raspberry leaf tea and various herbs and tinctures I;m really not sure I'd recommend; pineapple, curry, cumin tea, some kind of "tonic" they sell at healthfood shops that was doing the rounds. I stopped short of castor oil because the effects sounded disgusting! Good luck!

Lmcg46 - you're absolutely right that there is definitely a deep pleasure to be had in gaining mastery over something that is difficult and that really stretches you and having an experience of this is a brilliant lesson and one that really lasts, I think. The things that have helped my children in this regard have been for one of them, learning an instrument which they enjoyed, found quite difficult but discovered that practice made a huge difference and for the other it was learning to swim and to ride a bicycle (both of which took much, much, much longer than is "normal"). For both of them the sense of achievement and pride after a hard slog up a "mountain" (Snowdon is doable) or a week's hardcore camping (https://www.fsc.org.uk/)have been very powerful.

Scootingover > Greendale for this purpose is > significant. > > Bawdy-nan posted: > >>I've just received an email from "Dulwich Young > Cyclists" inviting me to an "open meeting" on 17th > January (ie next Saturday): > >> "Dulwich Safe Routes is working for a safer > environment for children walking and cycling to > school. > Please join us for a discussion looking for > positive outcomes from planned road changes now > and in the future, including the proposed changes > to the Townley Road Junction. > Saturday 17th January, 15:00 - St Barnabas Hall > Gilkes Place SE21 7BT" >. > > I did not get this mailing so thanks for posting > about it. Do you know why you were on the email > list Bawdy-nan? I think I am on a mailing list after filling in a questionnaire about barriers to cycling to school. I cycle a lot locally and when I commute and my children do cycle or would like to.

henryb Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > But isn't it the case that other expansions are > > Are you referring to the Ivydale expansion? The > current black hole of primary provision extends > all the way to Forest Hill Rd. To cover that > Ivydale's catchment area would need to be 1300m. > In 2013 the catchment area was 600m with a 3 class > in-take. I can't see how the school will cover 4 > times the area with one extra class. > I'm basing that on the data from Southwark cited in Tessa Jowell's recent letter http://www.tessajowell.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/CHAP0101901140379010100413.pdf - which includes Ivydale expansion and the new Harris on LL. Your argument about knock on effects if a futher Harris is opened at the hospital site (very far away from the black hole) work in the same way when applied to the already planned for additional places that take primary provision beyond what is required - which is to say, it should (and I realise, of course, that all of these stats are based on projections) ease the black hole problem up your neck of the woods.

Lmcg46 Wrote: > I think as others have said, the primaries have a > big job to do and don't have the resources to > challenge the brighter students. Perhaps rightly, > they focus on getting the less able or the less > well supported as far as they can. I just wish I > felt confident that they would assess and tell me > honestly what my kids are able of and let me feel > confident to support them where the school can't. I just don't think this is true. Certainly not my experience of the local state primary my children attend/ed where they've been challenged to push themselves, encouraged to try and experiment when they're unsure, supported when things have been tricky and had their curiosity and intellectual self-reliance developed. My eldest has just started at secondary and the benefits of the brilliant start she got at her previous school are still resonating in the way that she seems to have been equipped to manage her learning and assess how she's doing without feeling awful if its not going swimmingly. I also don't think that children are "able" or not. In my experience they're usually good at some things and find other things more difficult. And these things ebb and flow. When you say that you "struggle" to "support" your child at home, maybe that's the key. Maybe you could try different activities that you'll both enjoy and that school can't offer in quite the same way. There are great concerts, theatre, museums etc in London you could go to with your child not to mention the parks, zoos, rivers buildings etc - let alone great stories, and poems and music you can share. You've clearly got a passion for learning and that means your child is already going to be at an advantage but I suppose I'm suggesting that if your child is making progress at school that's great and there are other, more pleasurable, ways to share your passion. Good luck!

Indeed, because fair banded lottery is not a bad way or organising admissions but only of all the schools in the LA are done like that.

But isn't it the case that other expansions are already planned that more than fulfill any anticipated shortfall in Southwark in relation to primary places?

Jessie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps the 'unruly' children are also 'gifted'. quite

looks like they've been made safe now

And now, because of high winds I expect, the plastic fencing is all down and on the road itself... hard to see it unless you know its there ...

sorry Scootingover, I wasn't trying to undermine your points. Perhaps I misread your post. I read it as identifying a very close conected network of campaigners and especially Alastair Hanton. I do see that it is all very closely connected and that the same lobbyists appear in different hats all over the place but I reckon that's probably the way in local politics and where people are active. I don't disagree with you that this undermines the idea of "consultation". What I am interested in is hearing from these activists. I would normally identify myself as being broadly on their "side" but here I am at a loss as to see why they seem so powerfully in favour of something that seems, to me at least, so evidently against what they've been campaigning for in the past...

Scootingover Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You?re seeing what I see Tessmo. etc > > I don't see this as sinister rather evidence of someone who cares passionately, campaigns hard and puts his money where his mouth is. Good for him. But I remain baffled by the heels in on no right turn because the consequences seem to counter everything else he campaigns for (including the liklihood of really messing up Gilkes Crescent) ... the more I read about him the more respect I have, actually, and I would really like to hear the background ideas - wish the commitees and campainers would reveal themselves and engage ....

The thing is GG, that the proposed changes will also be to detriment of cyclists at the already very tricky Village / Court Lane / Turney Road / Calton Avenue multi-junction

I've just received an email from "Dulwich Young Cyclists" inviting me to an "open meeting" on 17th January (ie next Saturday): "Dulwich Safe Routes is working for a safer environment for children walking and cycling to school. Please join us for a discussion looking for positive outcomes from planned road changes now and in the future, including the proposed changes to the Townley Road Junction. Saturday 17th January, 15:00 - St Barnabas Hall Gilkes Place SE21 7BT" I wanted to share this because it is an open meeting and I am currently baffled as to why an organisation which says it is for a "safer environment for children walking and cycling to school" would be so vehement a supporter of a proposal that, it seems to me, will lead to a significantly more dangerous environment for children who attend the two state schools in the village and who, because they are local, tend to arrive on foot already. I can only assume that the group has additional information about why the impact will not be to make the JAGS / Alleyns pupils safer at the expense of the primary school pupils. Edited to say, actually I'm not sure why the no right hand turn would make the Jags/ Alleyns kids safer. But I do absolutely support attempts to make the junction safer and do think that this can be achieved through lots of changes short of the no right hand turn. I looked at the papers on the council consultation site about likely traffic impact but found it very difficult to understand. I should say that I am a cyclist and parent of 2 children who go to school locally (on foot and by bike) and want to see cycling and pedestrians prioritised over other traffic. In this case, however, the proposals, I think, will cause real danger to children who walk to school or cycle.

And what a beautiful and lovely cookbook you produced many years ago!

At 6 my daughter confided in me that she often rocked back and forth in lessons she found boring (esp maths where she said she was bored by the repetition). She told me she was imagining that she was rowing across a huge lake until her teacher moved on to something she hadn't already told them about. Had she been of a different tempremant she might have got a reputation for causing trouble. I tried to tactfully explain to her teacher what was going on but I also slightly envied my daughter's daydreaming journeys. She was making progress and continues to do so 6 years later where the teachers seem much more up for a challenge.

fondant for a smooth finish but buttercream every time for the that'll-do bodger

Really easy for pretty spectacular results and buttercream is your friend ... Bake victoria sponge - if you can do it in slightly smaller diameter than normal cake tins then so much the better - or you could bake it in a large pudding basin (AJ Farmers) or,probably better still one layer of round sponge with the basin sponge on top for height. If not using basin on top you'll need to build layers and trim down to shape - but buttercream is your forgiving friend. Put cake on board. Get a cheap doll / barbiealike. Either - wash the legs / wrap in cling film or remove legs! cover cake in a layer of butter icing then decorate all over with swirls of icing and silver balls (or flowers or some such other cake decorations) - doesn't need to be perfect and you can use an icing bag and go abstract or get those little pre filled tubes. Ta da! You totally win!

I love camping in France and its great for kids. There are lots of very good ones - you could try looking at the cool camping website.. https://www.coolcamping.co.uk/campsites/europe/france In some places you can hire pre-erected tents - Indigo camping do safari tents and this was brilliant - all the pleasures of camping with none of the hauling ... http://www.camping-indigo.com/en We did this in Noirmoutier which was absolutely gorgeous. No pool but right on the beach, lovely cycling, great place, can't recommend highly enough and not too bad a drive. The thing about France though is that you can't necessarily guarantee the weather unless you go very far south. Last year, for example was drizzly in Burgundy (though we stayed at a very lovely campsite in the Movan Forest http://www.campinglaforet.nl/pages/uk.campsite.htm - excellent for kids with a swimming "pond" a big barn to play in and very friendly owners who do "activities" like a campfire, and occasional camp meals) stormy but lovely in the Ardeche and then sunny and lovely in Northern Provence. Generally we go for about two weeks and stay at 3 different sites making sure we don't have to drive too far in one go. Sometimes we'll break up the return journey with an overnight in a hotel (travelodge type) but pick a nice town and its great (Beaunes or Tours, I;d highly recommend). I think the good thing about taking your own tent is that it is gobsmackingly cheaper than hiring a chalet or caravan type thing. Also, i love the outsideness of it and the kids just lolloping around outdoors instead of inside... Places we've really liked have been: the one in Burgundy mentioned above (my son said it was the best place he'd ever been); the Indigo campsite in Noirmoutier (see above); http://www.campingmilletoiles.com/en on the Ardeche River (but right above the gorge so not at all resorty and a great walk down to the river); quite isolated (but we liked that) http://www.camping-pyrenees-natura.com/ in the pyrenees - very very beautiful site and area (but can be chilly in the night); amazing walks and a short drive over a beautiful hilly road to a village with an outdoor pool where you can swim looking up at soaring birds of prey and mountains. http://www.camping-panorama.com/ on the Great Dune of Pyla - nice for sliding down difficult climb up and not especially great for swimming but gorgeous site in the pines, lovely restaurant and a great pool; gorgeous views and sunsets, oysters a plenty, you can get a boat out to the sandbar or from Arcachon across to the Cap http://www.camping-indigo.com/fr/camping-indigo-forcalquier-provence.html nice campsite with a pool on the edge of a lovely little Provencal hill town. http://www.campinglecapeyrou.com/index.html?lg=gb - in Dordogne - not a fan of the Dordogne myself (may have just had a bad experience being positioned next to a huge group of hideous and fighty brits) but this was a great site - right on the river for paddling and canoeing, two castles walkable, great shop across the road - pretty site. http://camping-le-raguenes-plage.com/en/ this is a nice site in Brittany with a walk through a field to the beach - and lots of lovely things to do nearby though Brittany can be very chilly and wet (bit like Cornwall).