red devil

I've not looked at the Daily Hate since A50 was triggered...:)

Not sure about the red sun, but a few years ago we had Saharan dust in the air, afterwards there was a film of dust everywhere...

Interesting how Brexiteers paint themselves as being the patriotic ones, and any dissenting voices are seen as traitors, enemies of the people etc. Yet Brextremists are quite happy to let the country go to the dogs economically so long as they get what they want, as that poll of a couple of months ago bore witness to. Whereas it's Remainers, who although they would prefer Brexit was stopped, they accept that unless there's a 2nd Referendum or equivalent, Brexit has to happen, yet in the meantime they're the only ones trying to prevent a Hard Brexit and the damage it would cause the country. So it's quite clear who the real patriots are...

From the Guardian... The 10 Democratic Unionist party MPs, upon whose votes May relies for a Commons majority, have made it clear to government whips that they would not accept a ?no deal? outcome because it would mean a return to a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. If May were to try to push such an approach, the deal with the DUP that keeps her in power could fall. Yesterday, in a sign of growing desperation, it emerged that the Brexit secretary, David Davis, will travel to Brussels on Monday for unscheduled talks after the EU ruled that insufficient progress had been made for the two sides to begin future trade talks with Britain. A key plank of May?s Brexit policy has been her insistence that ?no deal is better than a bad deal?. She has made it clear that at the end of negotiations MPs will have only two options: to accept whatever deal is on offer or to agree there will be no deal. If that's right then despite May's bluster and bravado, 'no deal' is a non-starter, and the EU know it, hence their stance. May's Florence speech said very little about NI and the Irish border. Surprising considering it's one of the 3 'red lines' that the EU wants significant progress on before trade talks can start. Now we know why...

Friday the 13th...

Time to get your prediction hats back on again. Week 8 fixtures... Saturday 14 October 2017 12:30 Liverpool v Man Utd 15.00 Burnley v West Ham C Palace v Chelsea Man City v Stoke Spurs v AFC Bournemouth Swansea v Huddersfield 17:30 Watford Arsenal Sunday 15 October 2017 13:30 Brighton v Everton 16:00 Southampton v Newcastle Monday 16 October 2017 20:00 Leicester v West Brom

On current form I wouldn't have any of Liverpool's defence. Smalling plays because I went for 3 at the back with wing backs. Normally would've gone for left-footed Blind but he played mid-week for Holland. I was being kind putting Coutinho in instead of Mkhitaryan...:)

My combined Liverpool v Man Utd XI...:)

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And now Phillip Hammond (who is usually a > relatively sane voice in the government) is saying > he's putting aside money for a 'no deal'. This is yet another division within the Tory party... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41585428

Plenty of mistakes, but the biggest surely has to be the rush to trigger A50, when clearly there was no Gov plan in place about what they thought Brexit entailed. Everything else has snowballed from that...

Agree John, I think a lot of them miss 'the good old days' now that football grounds are all-seater and CCTV'd up to the eyeballs. Casuals weren't that political, it was more about fashion and a dust-up. Where do Casuals go to die?...FLA marches

How do Twitter bans work, will it be a red card next time?...

I hope the ROI make it. A real shame Syria just missed out...

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But I don't have to give them the benefit of the > doubt. They seem pretty white, male and angry. > They fit the image of certain groups very clearly, > and frankly if it walks like a duck and talks like > a duck, I'm inclined to call it a duck. That's a form of prejudice joe. We're all guilty of it though... > For a group who claim to be against "all forms of > extremism", they do a very poor job of putting > clear water between themselves and white > extremists. I'd go so far as to say they seem > focused on a few specific forms of extremism. That's a fair point, and why I said yesterday they need to get their backsides in gear if they are serious about what they say they stand for...

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > when mass demonstrations began they could see their support > base and cover starting to slip and that helped > nudge them towards negotiation. You reckon?... http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/troubles_peace > Islamic terrorists now are despised by 99.9999% of the > community, including their own. They don't want > to change the community, they want to destroy it, > and will not be influenced by anybody's opinions, > particularly not those of white non-Muslims. Again, the alleged purpose of the FLA march wasn't to change the mindset of Islamic terrorists...

Agree John, for that reason they say it's better to sleep in a cool bedroom than one that's been pumping out heat...

Yep, dead as a dodo...

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > red devil Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > People in Northern Ireland protested against > > terrorism. Was that pointless?... > > Good point but two different instances I think: in > NI the terrorists were part of the community and > were, as has been fortunately proven, susceptible > to making deals. I very much doubt some insane > loon who wants to kill himself and as many others > as possible with a bomb is going to say oh, a > bunch of people are protesting against me, I've > lost the support of the community, perhaps I > should start talking. I doubt at the time of those marches that the protesters had any inkling 'a deal could be done'. It was out of desperation if anything, that the status quo simply wasn't working. I'd also guess that the majority of perpetrators of UK terrorist incidents have been 'home grown' and therefore are very much part of the community too. You say it's pointless that the FLA marchers were trying to change the minds of terrorists who blow themselves up. But from what I can gather, that wasn't the purpose of the march, they were protesting against all forms of extremism, and their message was supposedly aimed at the Gov. Now you and I may doubt that, but as Loz has been saying, until it's proven otherwise, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. That's the payback of living in a democracy...

People in Northern Ireland protested against terrorism. Was that pointless?...

Goldfinches go nuts for sunflower heart seeds, it's the crack cocaine of the bird world...

It's not over, check out the weekend forecast...

You don't need the central heating on with this inside you... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/27/rachel-roddys-tuscan-beef-stew-recipe

In the Commons, the Conservative MP Michael Fabricant says Labour could not negotiate their way out of a paper bag. A Labour MP - it sounded very like Chris Bryant - shouted that they would not have got into the paper bag in the first place....Touch?! :)

He will do it via Skype. It's been organised by a Republican student group, about 30 members. It's that 'free speech' argument again. Fine, as long as what someone says isn't illegal...