Robert Poste's Child

Sue, you always do this. Speculating on the mental health of someone you don't know, about an event you didn't witness, where they did something that you don't agree with is not discussing mental health and doing that has the effect of increasing stigma around mental illness. Not everyone who commits a crime is mentally ill - the fact you make a kneejerk reaction linking the two says it all. That's why people teach their children about right and wrong. If you saw a child nick some sweets, would you ask if they were feeling poorly? Do think about the situation and the real lives involved.

Please do stop with the mental health speculation!

The one at the Brockwell Park end of Rosedale is usually OK, but best if you have transport is the Coop in Tulse Hill.

What's happened to georgecanning? Did Admin take pity and decide to limit the damage he was causing to his own business?

He sounds like a really nice normal guy. It really brings it home, doesn't it? Not gangs, criminals, drugs or kids messing about, just someone like you and me popping into a shop on his way home from a night out. I think what many of us find too hard to think about is that there are people whose lives, for whatever reason, are so damaged, corrupt or brutalised that a cigarette is the price of a life.

If the account in the Metro is correct, a gang war seems very unlikely.

Can someone explain how PR works?

D'you think they had to jog in formation all the way to Walworth?

They were responding initially to a silly claim by a GLR presenter after this horrible incident, so a slightly different thing. I'd add that it's not the right place to speculate about the person's mental health - I'd say that anyway, but see earlier comments about any future legal case. I'm sure we wouldn't want to make this any harder for the family and friends of the man who lost his life.

Or got an old satnav that doesn't know the police station's gone.

Radio 4's More or Less tonight is looking at the stats on this.

That's hilarious. How many rules is that - three, four? So soon after Tropicgate.

What was it about? No riots reported.

That was according to some of the press coverage earlier in the day. I don't know what happened any more than anyone else on here, but it was clear they witnessed some of it so it must have been really terrifying for them.

And to the poor people who work in the shop and apparently tried to stop an argument. A horrible thing for them to have to deal with.