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MP read the thread through...i'm not talking about people eaning a 'decent salary'

SHE'S A TERRORIST? With the voice of an angel?

What Ridgley said +1

IQ is a socially constucted and hence bias measurement of intelligence - discuss

or Herr Intelligence?

I think *Bob* got my point and Emerson completley missed it...there's no pedestal or worship or inherent value in what I'm saying but people who've made a lot of money on their own backs have by and large done a bit more than 'got lucky', although luck plays a part too. You can think their scum, you can think their tossers, you can think it's wrong or obscene...but they've got balls

Oh I agree...Emerson, the money side is just an example for want of a better phrase 'living your dream etc' ...most people don't do it, unless sitting on a crowded train, working for w*nkers, living in a box that costs as much as a castle on the Isle of Skye for 4 weeks holiday a year and a bit of grub in Franklins once a week is your dream of course

it was a typo it was meant to be "Their" , it was late...probably the end of this thread?

er, A Daily Mail moment is when you find yourself agreeing with the DM rather than the Guardian...and on only having a big family if you can afford it, Reggie's with them....call me if you get stuck again Kel

Not a heading but a fantastic first liner in an Irish freebie yesterday about the amateur astronomer bloke from Dublin who found an exploding supernova in his garden shed lab/telescope " Now it's not many Dubliners who'd rather find a red hot heavenly body in their garden sheds than their beds"....you wouldn't get that in the fookin metro.

I reckon we'll probably avoid a 2 quarter double dip....but we've years of austerity left to reduce everyone's debt....unless we inflate our way out of it - which is my suspicion of what will happen. Ireland/Spain/Portugal/Greece look like basket cases to me. Germany will own their ass soon. Thank god....and, rarely for me, Gordon Brown, we're not in the fooking Euro or we'd be in as bad a shape as they are.

...ESSEX

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spot on DJKQ. My work brings me into contact with > the rich - almost every one of the ones I've known > was in the right place at the right time. > Shakespeare summed it up beautifully in Julius > Caesar: > > "There is a tide in the affairs of men. Which > taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, > all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows > and in miseries." > Cock. I've met and worked for plenty of people who have made some serious money on their own back, including a couple in the top 20 Times list...and they all take risks and many have turned their backs on relatively prosperous conventional careers (wage slavery as they see it)or no=prospect dead end jobs. 99% of people just haven't got those balls. Where i'd agree is that many people in well paid professional jobs in the city/law etc etc owe much of it to their priveliged middle class backgrounds and educations more than their hardwork (though many work hard too) and heir intelligence. Traders are different though...their results are there, under scrutiny (unless they're french) on a daily basis, they're measured on proper results not how far up the arse of their boss they are.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Big Man: ?I invent complex financial instruments > which make me and this bank a LOT of money ? I > DESERVE my large salary? > > Nervous journo: ?Do these instruments require > millions of people to take out loans and > mortgages?? > > BM: ?Indeed ? that way they can get the things > they want and I get to be rich ? win win!? > > NJ: ?I see. But haven?t we been here before where > house prices rise to the point where people can?t > afford them anymore and evrything collapses in a > pile of bad debt?? > > BM: ?ah but that?s the genius of my cleverness!! > These products I have devised ensure that won?t > happen this time. In fact, make sure you write > this down, lot?s of people will say this so I > want credit - ?This Time It?s Different?? > > NJ: ?Good good ? but if I may? suppose all of > these future customers decide not to take the risk > and don?t take out the loans. Your, erm, > instruments, will be worthless won?t they? In > which case why are you a genius and why do you > deserve all these bonuses?? > > BM: ?If people are nervous then we?ll just bombard > all media for years with the message. This Time > It?s Different. Or Better Do It Now Before You > Can?t Afford It Next Year. Basically, it has to > work and we?ll continue until it does? > > NJ: ?Well, you?re convincing me! > Ahahahahahahahahahaha ? ok but let?s scenario-test > (that?s a phrase you use isn?t it?) What if the > whole thing implodes ? it won?t but let?s just > pretend ? who will be to blame?? > > BM: ?This is the best bit ? if it goes all tits up > (and between you and me who knows eh? Wink wink) > then governments will give me more money and we > can lay the blame at the feet of the idiots who > took out loans they shouldn?t have!!!? > > NJ: ?You really are a bit of a c*** aren?t you? Big scottish man: NO More boom and bust NJ & Half the EDF: You're a much misunderstood, fundamentally decent man much maligned etc etc etc

...you don't talk about Dulwich Park

Tiffs are what make the place

Hugenot and Sean are well known sportswear addicts, tarot wouldn't buy them a driink on that basis alone

oh dear.....it's going to be a long hard season for the Reds

...mozza

I agree - weekdays looks a non-starter and Sunday might be a day too many but I think allowing more stalls on a Saturday 'might' work

I live on a connecting road and parking is a 'bit' of a hassle on Saturday and with 3 kids under 5 that's not always much fun...but there's often a space somewhere and practically always one just round the corner...the market's great and if people don't want an extension 'cos of impossible parking' that strikes me as a fisrtly an exageration and secondly Nimbyism.....

actually it's menswear

2 up with 5 to play I fancy Declan to edge this

Monty's inspirational 'talk' appears to have worked

Harringtons.....brings back some memories