Yeah, you've youth on your side Keef, so you can go back on the razz when the kids are older ;-) To be honest getting up with babies with a hangover is only doable once every so often for me nowadays, but I was still putting away a fair bit just by drinking a few cans everynight, so now I'm only drinking weekends or if I go out in the week, which is pretty rare nowadays but I'm not deliberately avoiding it if you see what I mean. So, I went to football the other day and had a few beers but Mon-Thursday if i'm at home...niente!