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Scylla100 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Check out what Noam Chomsky has to say about 9/11 > conspiracy theories and this man is seriously no > friend to anybody in authority > > edited to say you didn't put any linky linky text > in there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fq4teGzhTo Gore Vidal

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*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I never knew that about Pearl Harbour!! > > Wowzer - all this stuff really makes you think. US was told 3 days prior to the attack on pearl harbor by Australian secret service that Japan fleet was on it?s way, If you were US, would you not get your fleet out of harbor? US did everything it could to provoke Japan. 3 air craft carriers where on maneuvers, that was lucky, keeping your most important assets out of danger.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Greed have always been a factor in any financial > bubble and I don't think there are enough controls > to stop the next bubble either. There will always > be financial bubbles. With the bets getting > larger, can taxpayers be able to afford to cover > the next set of losses? > > Sorry NN but I disagree with your suggestions. It?s cool to disagree, Let give you a possible scenario, 1993 first attack on WTC, turns-out CIA running that one, but opppps didn?t fall down. You were right EDT, CIA are not ?competent enough?, Dam not got enough support to go to war. So 2001 we have an outsourced attack, but just to make sure they get all goals met, lets wirer up the buildings, good way to make the securities and exchange problem go away too, plus US get to invade any country they want. US already said in 2000 they needed a new pearl harbor, well they got it, and just like pearl harbor they made sure they got it. Wars make profits for some and austerity for others. Money is just money, power is the real game in town.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes they did. Even featured the Danish scientist > who suggested the substance. > > You should be able to catch the programme on > iplayer. > > The financial issues started well before 911. U.S. crisis started 1913 2001 WTC was pivotal in expanding this crisis further.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The BBC programme covered accelerants and WTC-7. > > While the financial crisis is still an ongoing > matter which concerns us all I think the 911 > conspiracy theory has run its course. Did the BBC cover the nano-thermite ? Parts of the financial issues of today have their origins in WTC.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was a good programme about the 911 > conspiracy theories on BBC2 last night. > > My view on the 911 conspiracy theory is there was > no conspiracy by the US Government. I don't think > they're that competent enough to pull something of > that scale successfully. > > I don't doubt there are pockets of evidence which > points to conspiracies but on the other hand > normal science explanations supports a different > view. NIST did not find evidence of demolition materials, i.e. explosives - because they did not look for any. If a building falls down because of fire (WTC-7) standard practice. Do?s Look for an accelerant. Don?ts Ship evidence across the sea?s to China and India

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > New Nexus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > http://torontohearings.org/ > > > > The Toronto Hearings > > 8 to 11 sep > > start 9am local > > 2pm UK > > > Now I know you're taking the p!ss. If your statement was fact. I am nether equipped nor qualified to extract urine. If your statement was metaphoric. Given the Toronto hearings have only started yesterday, you may want to wait and see what information is put forward before casting judgment, or maybe the tabloid have already told you how to think. http://torontohearings.org/

http://torontohearings.org/ The Toronto Hearings 8 to 11 sep start 9am local 2pm UK

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > paradigm scmaradigm > > you've said it all before HAL Now let me see, was not HAL given conflicting orders and programming by the NSA, so no change there then. USA Ya, Saddam, go invade Kuwait we don?t care. USA Ha, look that bad old Saddam has invaded Kuwait, we better go kick his ass. Hallibuton ? blackwater new song, we are in the money-lots of money. Lyrics by Dick Cheney.

Undisputedtruth Thank you for your feedback. Regarding my approach, I?m doing the Nike and Reebok spin, or Gore Vidal on how to read Pravda. The crazes would have always attacked, Nicole Foss said people would get very angry when such paradigms are suggested. So no surprise there then. Forum What?s my point? Some but not all points: Paradigm shift. We all have access to information both good and bad, people can now look at their world through their own eyes and not the lens of mainstream media and ?official reports? use it people before it goes. Paradigm shift. Yes there has always been points of corruption in all financial systems, but when the system itself is the corruption and no longer regulated. I can only see one outcome to this. The system will feed in and of it?s self . ?What?s that got to do with the price of bread?? a Lot. Do your own research, you may just find that systems are already in hand to ?manage? the problems.

(Pointless rubbish) but you can?t keep away. http://torontohearings.org/

(Zerohedge - 6 sep) Any time a major bank releases a report saying a given course of action is too costly, too prohibitive, too blonde, or simply too impossible, it is nearly guaranteed that that is precisely the course of action about to be undertaken. Which is why all non-euro skeptics are advised to shield their eyes and look away from the just released report by UBS (of surging 3 Month USD Libor rate fame) titled "Euro Break Up - The Consequences." UBS conveniently sets up the straw man as follows: "Under the current structure and with the current membership, the Euro does not work. Either the current structure will have to change, or the current membership will have to change." So far so good. Yet where it gets scary is when UBS quantifies the actual opportunity cost to one or more countries leaving the Euro. Notably Germany. "Were a stronger country such as Germany to leave the Euro, the consequences would include corporate default, recapitalisation of the banking system and collapse of international trade. If Germany were to leave, we believe the cost to be around EUR6,000 to EUR8,000 for every German adult and child in the first year, and a range of EUR3,500 to EUR4,500 per person per year thereafter. That is the equivalent of 20% to 25% of GDP in the first year. " It also would mean the end of UBS, but we digress. Where it gets even more scary is when UBS, like many other banks to come, succumbs to the Mutual Assured Destruction trope made so popular by ole' Hank Paulson : "The economic cost is, in many ways, the least of the concerns investors should have about a break-up. Fragmentation of the Euro would incur political costs. Europe?s ?soft power? influence internationally would cease (as the concept of ?Europe? as an integrated polity becomes meaningless). It is also worth observing that almost no modern fiat currency monetary unions have broken up without some form of authoritarian or military government, or civil war." So you see: save the euro for the children, so we can avoid all out war (and UBS can continue to exist). The scariest thing, however, by far, is that for this report to have been issued, it means that Germany is now actively considering dumping the euro. Heads-up http://torontohearings.org/ 8th to 11th September 2011 Hopefully some real answers.

It was not the outcome, I was really concentrating on, all be it an interesting one, it?s was more the road to this outcome. The change. I?m of the school of thought ?Make god laugh tell him your future plans?. Heads-up, I am agnostic. Once all ?ism?s? have stopped shook hands with men and women, then moved on down the road. What remains? It is my belief that most ism?s fail after encountering planet earth, mainly due to their inflexibility and misinterpretation. As for time scales, I think it has already started, it is my belief it will be a step change, and the outcome has already been baked into the cake. The family known as humans, live on this planet, above 6 billion strong. This planet has a finite set of resources, this family of humans has a system called money, this money can take the form of physical money or electronic money, assets well, that?s just leverage and stored money. Most resources require money to obtain the resources. Those who control money and access to that money, control the family called humans. But when the controllers have a collective mental break down. We are all in trouble.

As we have been writing for a while now, it is not in the arcania of shadow banking that one needs to look to find increasing signs of the collapse in interbank lending. No: something as simple as Libor, especially its USD variant, which is so crucial to USD-crunched European banks, is more than sufficient to determine that not just Greece, or the PIIGS, but now the entire Eurozone is becoming completely dependent on the dollar generosity of the ECB, and the various other regional central banks. This by implication means that the Fed will once again be forced to step in, "in size" and bail out the world, only this time it is far more debatable if the world believes that even the Fed alone is sufficient to prevent a rising global insolvency tsunami. And confirming how bad it is, we now have none other than ABN AMRO's CEO on the tape, complaining loudly about liquidity: this is and always has been a move of total desperation as the last thing a bank wants to do is give any indication of funding weakness. Furthermore, since ABN Amro is not a USD LIBOR reporting bank, we can safely say that the dollar liquidity crunch has spread far and wide from the 18 BBA member banks, where it is hardly any easier to procure the former reserve currency.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Admin - please put all of us out of our misery, > put this thread to sleep and lock it off. > > Hugenot and a few others have argued valiantly but > reason in the face of, almost, insane rantings. > > Time to let New Nexus and his team of acolytes > return to planate Zog. Please, if you were any further up Huguenot, it would be officially a marriage made in heaven.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bets on > > 8-5 on Frankito is the daddy of Katie > > 7-5 on Maxxi is Frankitos sis, aunt to Katie > > 6-5 on ibillys an old boyfriend of Katie > > evens Hugo 0 is Frankitos made up friend, he > introduced him first.

OK, so I didn?t post about MMR did I, and you dreamed it all up ? just like the rest of your fantastic worldview.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry, MMR, not MMA. Typo > > The usual scare story circulated by bullshitters > looking for attention. In this case claiming that > the MMR vaccine caused autism and it was only > being distributed to save the government money. > > Dead kids and permanent disfigurements created by > the conspiracy theory shitheads. OK, MMR where did I post about this? Potty mouth.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No New Nexus, that's just a great example of where > you are misrepresenting the facts to generate fear > and panic. > > Neither of the first two tests were of harmful > bacteria, and it's necessary to investigate to the > possible effects of the release of harmful > bacteria in this way. The final one is just an > attack on a rather shameful clinical test, not > quite on the scale of the syphilis experiment. > > Do you recognize that the essence of your > complaint is that the US government did not give > the public the full picture, when you deliberately > attempt to disguise the full picture from the > readers of this forum? > > I'm interested if you plan to apologize for the > children that died in the UK after the outrageous > MMA scare distributed by conspiracy theorists > scared mothers into failing to vaccinate their > children? > > No, I thought not. > > You talk about America having lost control (as if > it's now), and then cite two examples almost half > a century ago and one two decades ago. > > Must try harder. I do not remember posting about MMA, maybe you could expand on this accusation or is this one of your, guilt by association - that you are so readily happy to thro at people.

http://www.whale.to/b/bay_of_tonkin_incident.html http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods 1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates. 968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C. 1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental. This is not a bash at Americans, Americans have lost control of America

?(perhaps than those whose views you possibly agree with?)? Just because I am paranoid, does not mean that they aren?t all out to get me.

Ar, wit, one of the last bastions of denial.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's that ole Messiah complex coming through > again New Nexus - comparing yourself with Columbus > this time? Once again Huguenot you are reading the substance and not observing the facts. Try addressing Undisputedtruth.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As is reasonably apparent, I'm allowing people to > make an informed judgment upon the quality and > provenance of the information. ;-) And the people are humbly grateful to thy king for: Allowing. ?I'm allowing people to make an informed judgment?