fortified

Thanks, Bic. I took the approach of sitting in the dark feeling irritated by the burglar alarms ruining what would otherwise be pleasant quiet. Your approach was better.

Still dark top end of Underhill.

What were you afraid would happen, dukes?

All roads lead to Waitrose.

It says it 'has opened'. Even though it hasn't.

Using that link didn't work but finding the article directly through Google does (I've never visited the AJ site before, maybe that's why). The most interesting bit: "The plans include a 50m heated pool surrounded by smaller natural pools that would draw water from the underground River Peck which runs directly beneath the site. Alongside the pools would be single?storey pavilions housing a gym, caf? and community space." Heated pool - take that, Brockwell!

Not being able to read the AJ piece, but being curious about this project, I had a quick Google. After reading about Studio Octopi's proposals for floating freshwater swimming pools in the Thames, I wonder what might happen on the Rye. I mean, I was imagining a basic 'dig pool, add changing room and vending machine' effort which would be fine, but my expectations are now spiralling wildly.

Fuck me, I can swear on Mumsnet but not on the EDF? Profanity filter. LOL.

I realise we are in agreement, KK. I tend to think it's social rather than ethnic cleansing, though; what might be considered aspects of white working-class life don't seem to fare too well either. All social classes have become more ethnically diverse, yet the affluent still give the less affluent a wide berth given a choice. Not sure I'm comfortable with using cleansing to describe this though, not least because of what it means in world history terms, but also because there's no conscious intent, it's mainly the outcome of lots of small choices at the individual level. And I have to say, having mulled it over, I think dismissing the area as a 'shithole' is actually pretty f*cking rude to the people who live and work there.

Not sure the ice cream van people that serve the playground will be delighted by this news.

It's only latterly that LL has achieved oh-so-covetable boring predictable safe sterilised status. It was perfectly acceptable ten or so years ago. KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you want a boring predictable safe sterilised > high st try Lordship Lane, how can you have wasted > a whole life shopping in a 'shithole' when what > you were looking for is a mile away ?! lol

Yy, the Cranks oil carrot cake!

Indeed, keeky. I was thinking the same thing as I exited the station onto Rye Lane on Thursday evening. The economy seemed to be thriving, with plenty of businesses serving the community. Cynically, I take 'new cultural economy' to be a euphemism for hipsters as conduit for gentrification.

Me, on occasion. I do the crossword (just the right level of difficulty for the evening), then use it to line the cat tray. The Guardian lost out to the Torygraph when it sacked off broadsheet format. I may read some news but only because I've already paid for it. Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Who is going to > pay ?1.50 for last nights news when you can get > up-to-the minute stuff online for free?