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I am not surprised by that. We went last year (a friend had free tickets theynwere unable to use so gave them to us). Now we are not the target audience I suspect, but we can usally find something to enjoy in most events but this was dire - terrible music (I've seen better wedding bands), uninspiring corporate food, terrible alcohol offering. Everyone we talked to seemed to be, like us, there on some sort of freebie.

SHE did said it was prejudice. People can often prejudiced against dance music and dance music festivals. I said nothing about race. That was entirely your own interpretation.

Exactly @Dogkennelhillbilly. My point was it is a festival with a very mixed crowd of women and men, a fairly good age range and a strong LGBTQ contingent. Those kinds of crowds are usually a low risk for violence. Violence and bad behaviour at events tends to be driven by large groups of young straight men sadly. As for litter, noise and environmental impacts, they are entirely legitimate concerns but it is not my place to comment as I do not live right on the park any more (long since priced out 😂) But tell you what - I'd swap you three days of dance music for the constant 6 days a week drilling and construction noise we have being enduring from a building site next door since January.

Thank you for your informed contribution.

Mate you are the one who made unfounded and unevidenced statements about mass lawlessness and potential stabbings. I was just pointing out the composition of the crowd makes that very unlikely. I have been to a lot of music events and festivals in my time and have a feel for such things. As I said no mass event (music, sport, political etc..) is without risk. Anyway I have a nice sunny day to go out and enjoy.

It is pure prejudice and hysteria, probably based on tne type of music at the festival. It is a mainly young (but not exclusively) very mixed gender and sexuality crowd. They are generally well behaved and just want to dance and have fun. There are always risks with large events of any nature, but I would say as music festivals go it is a well behaved crowd and a pretty low risk event.

Neither of which are Dulwich private schools though. I also wasn't being entirely serious.

We are just having a little fun with the OP. I am sure someone who is planning to send their children to the Dulwich private schools need not consider the horror of "downgrading" to Forest Hill and our dreadful child exhausting geography.

What the Overground has done is transformed the demographics of FH. Plenty more young families and couples. I love the green of Forest Hill, this time of year Forest Hill is lovely - it is exploding with green everywhere. One of the other reasons we moved here is we didn't want a conversion flat and places like Penge, Forest Hill, Sydenham and Beckenham have a better range of mid century purpose built private blocks of flats - which was what we wanted for preference. Well obviously for preference we wanted a house, but not everyone has the OPs budget 😄

Well ain't many of us who can afford to live in SE22 anymore.

It's a working day. There were queues at ours at 8.20am this morning. A lot people will be voting this evening after work.

Ha ha! Maybe the OP could get the one in Brockley thay comes with an integrated Kebab shop

Agree SE23 is great - you will find us a little rougher around the edges than the Dulwiches though! I'll let the eager house sellers of SE23 know someone with £2M budget is on their way 😂

12 hours of cider and adulterated cocaine 😂. The Gala crowd is definitely not a coke crowd. We are night time people and have been to loads of events and festivals over the years and the Gala crowd is over all very respectful and well behaved. I am not saying drugs do not happen, because they happen every where but there is probably more coke use going in the toilets of your high street local of a Saturday night. I hope all those concered with green spaces, the environment and nature are equally supportive of polices to reduce car use and air pollution in the area.

We went last year (yes we are local) and it was one of the best organised events and well behaved festival crowds I have ever seen. It only takes up a small portion of the park, one which is generally pretty unloved and less used by people. As someone with no private garden I am very concerned with, and alert to, the privatisation of public green spaces but this is not that. This thread just tends to read like a lot of elderly middle class whingers who feel they own the park because they are luckly enough to own a property over looking it.

There should be something called an ATA port in the back of your router - that is where you plug your phone in. I think BT ATA ports even have a little picture of a phone next to them to help you.

Full fibre to the premises (FTTP) is completely separate from the old copper network so taking a FTTP comtract will involve running new cables in to your property. However I am not sure why you have been told it has to go under your floorboards? We had FTTP run in to our flat last year and the engineer just stapled the cable to our skirting board. Fibre cables are much thinner than copper so you don't really notice them.

I am in Forest Hill but have been with Community Fibre for just under a year - the speeds are good and we have not had any issues.

We went to Lambeth Country Show this weekend just gone. It was great as always but interesting as Lambeth Council reused a lot of the infrastructure from the festivals held in Brockwell Park in previous weekends. The better quality was noticable in terms of toilets, washing facilities, marquees and seating areas. The sound for various stages was also better quality. I understand using this for free drastically reduced the cost of the Country Show for Lambeth - so a big benefit for locals.

Ah well I have no interest in debating whether Gala should or should not happen. I just came to report my two different experiences of the events as they had been compared on here. That is all.

So we were given some last minute free tickets for Pub in the Park last night so I am able to offer some comparison. It is clearly smaller than Gala and a very different proposition, a much older and wealthier crowd. It wasn't full at all last night, I would say about 2/3 capacity, if that. Everyone we spoke to also seemed to be there on some sort of freebie like us! It was very well organised, decent amount of bars and toilets, lots of bins and litter pickers, well manged exit at the end of the night (we did see a few men peeing in the park bushes on the way out). It wasn't as loud as Gala as there was hardly any music (and tbf what there was, was pretty terrible - the main act was like a second rate wedding band). I would say it definitely has less impact on the local area in terms of noise and crowds than Gala but (and perhaps I am biased) in terms of imteresting cultural contribution to the area it lagged well behind Gala. Gala presented three days of really interesting contemporary dance music and Jazz from across genres. Pub in the Park is a bit of a bland corporate fest - tired music and a lot of very big anodyne brands - in some places it felt more like an industry trade show than a festival.

Blimey - all I can say is of you think Gala is "problematic and badly run" your experience of festivals and music events must be very scant. I

I am local - I live in Forest Hill and used to live right on the junction between East Dulwich Road and Peckham Rye. My point was I don't live right on the park anymore or in the borough so it is not really up to me whether the festival extends to 6 days or not. And with that I'll leave you to it.

Not really for me to decide seeing as Peckham Rye is no longer my local park and I no longer live in Southwark I just commented I went to the event and it was well run and positive.

Someone trying to get rid of a disposable BBQ perhaps?